Bavaria vs Hallberg - Rassy

jzlatar · #1 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

Hi everybody, I am in de process of deciding which will be the boat of our dreams, and before we start looking for the final boat, we want the opinion of the experts of the list. Compare the Bavaria49 vs. Hallberg-Rossy 49, and at the same time what other brand will be comparable

Sailmc · #2 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

These two boats are at the opposite extremes of the scale. Bavarias are built to as low a cost as possible. Halberg Rassies are built to as high a standard of quality as possible. Bavarias are costal boats, Halberg Rassies,are passage makers. Prices for a new HR could reach double what the Bavaria costs.

jzlatar · #3 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

Agree in everything...
My question goes regarding performance, safety on high seas and handeling.
Price I will see on a later day. $ of a new Bavaria 49 can buy me a 1990 HR42.
Maybe I reformulate my question...
I know the HR is the best, but what about the Bavaria?

hamiam · #4 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

You need to tell us what you intend to do in the boat before we can give you a good answer. If you are just doing coastal sailing, buy the Bavaria and bank the extra money. If you intend to sail around the world, then the Bavaria is entirely inappropriate and the HR would be a good choice. The Bavaria should be a quicker boat and the HR ALOT better in heavy weather.

jzlatar · #5 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

Hamiam:The idea is to start doing some costal cruising in Chile, especially in the south channels and Patagonia, then who knows, My wife and I will be retired, time and distance will not be a problem. If after we decide to go around the world, I wouldn’t like to be sailing a boat that won''t take me there. In your opinion the Bavaria wouldn’t do so if the time comes, If so Why? What problems will I encounter?

Jeff_H · #6 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

From my observations, I generally think of Bavarias as being near the bottom of the list of high production builders when it comes to build quality. These are comparable boats to the lower cost Beneteaus, Hunters and Catalinas and perhaps not even as well built as the better model Beneteaus. These would not be boats that I would consider for cruising the more remote areas of the world. There are dozens of brands that would be better suited.

On the other hand, Halberg Rasseys have one of the best reputations for quality offshore cruisers.

Jeff

Magic_Moments · #7 (**permalink**) 10-07-2003

I read recently that the Chilean government was requiring boats transiting or cruising in and around Tierra del Fuego and Straits of Magellan to carry insurance from Lloyds or one other company which I don''t recall. If it is true that they are requiring that insurance, then you may want to check with a broker for that company as to what boats they would be willing to cover.

I think I read that news on the Pardy''s website www.landlpardy.com

Ken

PS if I had the $300k or so I would want the HR 36, but thats me. I went on some Barvaria''s at a boat show and was very underwhelmed.

jzlatar · #8 (**permalink**) 10-08-2003

Jef:
Thanks for your comments, any chance to give me a list of the brands that would be better suited. Maybe I must look at them
Thanks

michaelspqr · #9 (**permalink**) 10-10-2003

I found this string very interesting... I personally would be interested in that list of boats to consider. Thanks in advance!

jzlatar · #10 (**permalink**) 10-13-2003

Jeff wrote,” There are dozens of brands that would be better suited."

Can any body with experience give such a list? It will be a very interesting starting point for most of us
Thanks.