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While I''m not sure where to begin, I thought that I would post a few questions for the masses to help me with. I am new to sailing, having only taken a few classes on learing to sail, but have a few years experience on powerboats. My question is as old as sailing itself: which boat for me? I realize that no one can answer this for me, but I tought that some people might be able to lend their experience. I have read all of sailnet''s articles on it, and have done my best to determine what I want in terms of length and type of boat. The real question is should I go for a newer production type boat or an older one and do complete refit myself? The reason that I ask is that I would like to learn how to repair/upgrade a boat for future cruising plans. My fears are that I will bite off more that I can chew, or that the overhaul will become a large hole in the water into which I throw money. I have experience in carpentry (mostly framing, some finish work) and as an auto/motorcycle mechanic as background and I tend to pick up skills with a minimum of frustration. Also, I feel that a boat is one of the few places that you cannot learn from your mistakes, as there is no shoulder to pull over onto if anything goes horribly wrong. Any thoughts or experiences on the matter, as well as any good reads would be greatly appreciated.
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This is actually in eply to danno, What boat to buy? Years and years ago I was sailing with a Dr friend MD type on his 47 ft classic teak cutter he pulled me over as we passed a TBird 26 ft He said "see that TBird that is Dr --- he and I are surgeons together, He built that boat in his garage, litterally a boat built by a surgeon. He had the joy and therapy of doing something other than his work and that is his boat. I wanted to sail too so I spent my time doing extra surgery not building a boat and I took lessons on a school boat and got my recreation, pleasure sailing and learning experience too, with the extra money from the surgerys I did I bought this boat." HIs point to me? do alot of what you dobestfor money,do what you do fun, don''t do what you don''t do. stay focused. Therefore,I am not repairing my car or my washing machine. Does that help?
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Yes, somatics, that does help. The only reason I contemplate a refit of an older boat in need vs. a somewhat newer boat in good condition (I''m considering an early 80''s Cabo Rico 38 as a liveaboard) is my experiences with other fields. When I wanted a computer, I didn''t go and buy a gateway or dell, but rather bought the components, read some helpful advice and built it myself. I knew very little about computers when I started, but now I can hold an intelligent conversation with anyone in the industry (including a brother who is a computer programmer). Also, I have exactly what I want and can fix it if it breaks. These are the reasons i consider a refit (not scratch built), but I have been unable to get any useful information on cost/time/nightmare of doing it, which makes me hesitant until I do.
I think that your surgeon friend had the right idea. Now, where did i put those med school applications.....
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danno,
enjoy either way build or buy, consider the time factor, one thing I note is my personal experience of Cabo Rico I''m 6''2" and 250 plus and the hatches and design interior on the CAbo was 20% less than I needed. just a note If I were 5"10 and 150 or less ok
Med school yes well where ever the money is thats the thing to do
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Good to know about the Cabo.

I''m 6''1", 180 and my brother, the other potential owner, is 6''3", 200. I will have to take a hard look at it at the Annapolis Boat show (one of the advantages to living 45 minutes away).

However, do you know how much of the design on the ''38 CR has changed since the mid-eighties? I''m not made of money, and that is going to be the era of boat that I will be able to afford. Being that the Cabo is not overly abundant, I haven''t been able to get on an older one to see what its like. For some reason I don''t want to pony up the $415k for a new one. Any experiences with the older Cabos would be great, especially hull/general construction integrity.
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danno, somebody out there has a clue not me a friend of mine in San Diego has had a Cabo Rico for many years so his would qualify this may take a while as I don''t have his email address or other actually...I will see?jim
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