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Just a thought:

The boat doesn't look horrible, but:

-----pay me now or pay me later---

If you buy the boat and have to invest money into and a year or so of your time getting it ready to sail, wouldn't you just be better to put the total amount of money up and get one that's ready to go sailing now? (I'll answer my own question..I was told by someone in the professional building and refurbishing of boats, that if I were buying a used boat, get one that was ready to go sailing now without lots of to-do/unfinished projects, those will bug you to death). Of course that's just my and his opinion and won't fit everyone.
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Since the trim ring, around the mast UNDER the deck, is thoroughly rotted apart, one can assume a lot of water came down that mast, and I'd bet it also entered the deck at the partners. A boat sitting wet and neglected for three years could have a lot of rot problems, beyond the engine. Add all the blisters and a possible peel and barrier bottom job...You'd have to look very very carefully at what that boat might need.
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I will hazard a guess that this would be your first "big" boat.

Nice paint job.

However, without checking: the rigging, and the deck for moisture or delam., and 100 other things, you are wasting your time.

If you are SERIOUS about this boat, spend $700 and have it professionally surveyed. If that doesn't scare you off, then spend another $500 and have the engine and transmission surveyed. If you are still not scared away, add up what it would cost to fix everything, and either proceed with a purchase, or have it surveyed again.

We can't survey the boat for you through pictures. It is like a blind person trying to describe what an elephant looks like.
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This will be my first sailboat period
I have had many fishing boats. Nothing
With a cabin. Everything is a learning experience. I have read and read. Also. Taking sailing lessons. I really like this boat. But there are so many deals out there right now. I'm not gonna jump. I can wait. I might even go look at it again. He
Said he
Is going to have the marina pump out
The
Bilge.

THIS OLD BOAT
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Ok, deck rot around the mast from the failed seal would be a big deal. Re-coring a deck absolutely sucks from what I've seen.

Chainplate deflection- Is that from overtightening the rigging? Does it mean that the hull is hogged? That would also be very bad.

BL, you made some good points. These are definitely things to triple check and probably run from.

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Re: Pearson 323. should I walk or offer$$$

What conclusion did you come to on the pearson 323? What did you find out ?
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What conclusion did you come to on the pearson 323? What did you find out ?
He must have bailed on it. He's looking at a different boat now.

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Pearson 323. should I walk or offer$$$

It's still sitting there. Owner wouldn't give me a price and I'm afraid of the Volvo diesel. It would be a nice boat I wish it had a little smaller cockpit and a quarter berth

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Re: Pearson 323. should I walk or offer$$$

Personally I think quarter berths are often overrated. Too often I see them used only for storage, with all sorts of stuff pushed to the back and inaccessible. The P323 has enormous lazarettes, which for me are a better tradeoff.

Of course, your usage of the boat will undoubtedly be different from mine. I'm just sayin', a lot of boats sacrificed lazarettes for quarterberths, to enable them to claim more sleeping room in the marketing. Not always the best tradeoff!
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Re: Pearson 323. should I walk or offer$$$

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Owner wouldn't give me a price...
Why don't you give the owner a price? If you have a good handle on the work and money involved, make him an offer that makes sense. Worst that can happen is he'd say no. Second worst that can happen is he'd say yes. Or maybe it's the other way around.

I think in private haggling people can get hung up on getting the lowest price out of a seller, or the highest price out of a buyer. Instead, I prefer to determine what a fair price is and try to strike a deal close to that. Maybe you'll find out later that the buyer would have settled for less than your offered price, but who cares? A fair price is a fair price. For a boat that needs a lot of work and dollars, the fair price might be very low.
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