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Help with a first boat purchase...

I have recently moved to a place where i can 'afford' a sailboat. But the options are endless! I need some help narrowing down the types of boats and models i should be looking at. Some background information:

I am a novice-intermediate sailor
I will be sailing out of Kingston ON (Lake Ontario)
I would like a boat that can take 4 people, but must be able to singlehand
I'd like something that's as short as possible (15-20ft) to keep dock fees down
I'd prefer a keel boat for stability (and i hate righting dingies after they've turtled)
I'd like something that's entertaining to sail (fast!...fast-ish anyway...)
I'm only looking for a daysailor, so i don't NEED a cabin, though a wee one may be nice.

What would you recommend and why? It would likely need to be a used boat, as I'd like to spend less that $10k. Some boats I've come across: the Yngling, Ideal 18, and Schock Harbour 20 (comments on any of those?). I've seen some from Hunter and catalina as well. Any help you can provide me will be most appreciated!
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Precision 18?

If you want to race, the Tanzer 22 has a decent fleet, and the Bluenose 23, although getting a little bigger LOA is still a great ride, and popular in the great lakes. Or consider the bluenose's little sister the McVay minuet.
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I don't NEED to race, but may partake if the mood strikes! I'd rather a fun easy boat than one set up for hardcore racing.
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You mentioned possibly a "wee" cabin. Actually, I was wondering if you had thought whether it would be nice to have a "pee" cabin. One that'll allow the use of a porta-potti, if you have mixed company out for extended sails.

You can find yourself on a slippery slope headed for a 30 footer, but in my book, that was always one of my considerations. What say you?

If a head is something that would enhance your sailing day, you may find yourself in the 20 to 22 ft. range to have one that's usable. I had a Holder 20 once that had a spot for a porta-potti, but you almost had to lie down over it on your stomach to use it (almost). It was pretty much unusable.

If a head isn't needed, one boat that I'd suggest would be a Flying Scot. Google and see what you think. Not a keel, but not a tippy little thing, either.
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Realistically for daysailing with up to 4 people I think you're looking for something a bit bigger than an oversized dinghy.. You want a long enough cockpit area that you can sit all 4 to weather if necessary, esp if it's not a keelboat.

A Santana 20 might fit the bill, the previously mentioned Holder; for much less money a Viking 22 might suit too - they're older but built in Ont so may be available there. The Hinterhoeller Cygnet is another 20 footer that might do - available in keel and C/B versions.

With that budget something 20 feet or a bit more should be doable, and be a lot of fun.
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Faster, a decent one is in the $2500-4000 range.
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