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Re: Hunter 45ds vs Moody 45 ac

Some other features to consider.

The floor boards and all storage locker lids needs to be secured. On one offshore excursion a floor board came loose and nearly hit the skipper who was sleeping on the passageway sole. (His aft queen was useless.)

How safe is the galley underway? Does the stove gimbal properly? Do the pot holders actually hold pots on the cooking surface? Do the oven racks have lips to prevent the contents of the oven from spilling out. Does the oven door cause the stove to tip when opened. Is there a grab handle in front of the stove? Can a galley harness be fitted? Is the galley sink along the centreline so that it will drain on either tack. If the fridge is front loading, can it be opened on either tack?

Is the head usable underway? Is it narrow enough to brace yourself? If there are two heads, are they on opposite sides of the boat.

Are the bulkheads structural or simply riding in slots?

Are there sufficient grab handles to to able to walk safely around the saloon?

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Thank you Jackdale, I take note. And thanks Scottbr, Hunter should release a new Hunter 41DS soon, ( I hope ) looking forward for that model too.
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Re: Hunter 45ds vs Moody 45 ac

On a related note, my wife and I plan to hike across the U.S. and are having trouble deciding on our footwear.

I want a steel toe and my wife insists on heels. We have narrowed our search down to construction boots and cowboy boots. Which do you think is better?

I have to admit that I love the fancy stitching on the cowboy boots and my wife will admit that she likes the color of the construction boot.

Please don't tell me that no one has ever walked across the U.S. in cowboy boots or construction boots, or that they will not be the most comfortable footwear for the trip!
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You're right, Just do it!
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My wife and I are planning to sail the world, leaving in about 4 years for about 4 years. Like many of you, new in the sailing world, we went to visit a few boatshows and talked to different sailors. I found out that there is no such thing as a perfect sailboat and that compromise is the key to choose a sailboat. My wife want a secure boat and a galley in a L shape. That eliminate a lot of sailboat. (And its a good thing because I won't have to buy the new Oyster 625). Am looking for new or lightly use confortable sailboat, strong, easy to sail with in mast furling, dual wheel, electric... and without a mainsheet anchor point on the floor. (That eliminate a lot of cruiser racer). But I want a boat that moves well. For 2011 model, for around 300K, we have lower the list to 2 sailboats; The Hunter 45 DS and the Moody 45 AC.

At that price I will have to buy the Moody in Europe, without much option and it comes with 220v.
For the same price I could buy the Hunter from a broker not far from home, with lots of equipment, Air con, bow truster, freezer etc
Does anyone have any knowledge of these sailboats? Please share.
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I think you need to do an offshore passage of at least 7 days with some beating to windward involved. I am dead serious here you have NO IDEA what spending days at sea with only two people onboard involves.

1 you will not be helming, the autopilot or windvane will be doing that. The only time you might need to helm is if conditions are so bad 'george' can not cope then and trust me on this you will not want to be standing back there exposed to the elements, you will want to be tucked up under the dodger. What good are two wheels!

2 you will not be sleeping together in that nice centreline queen on passage except in the rarest of benign conditions, you will need a single 1/4 berth or single berth with a lee cloth.

3 you need to think about cooking with your galley at 30 degrees and jumping up and down every minute or so. How could you warm up a can of stew and make a hot drink without the risk of being scalded. This has happened to a fair number of cruisers some of which were very experienced.

4 electricity you are worried about the Moody being 220 volts ?? worry more about how you are going to generate electricity on passage solar? wind? towed? main engine driven alternator? seperate generator?

5 Air Con ??? think about hatches and dorades, what could you open at sea to keep some air moving through the boat without the risk of water coming on board.

6 looks ?? worry about handholds both above deck and below deck.

7 moves well by this I guess you want some speed ?? hmm be nice but I would ALSO want to be sure that it will heave too easily cos believe me at some point you will need to do that in a circumnavigation even on the milk run route.

I realise this may come across as harsh and as a bit of a rant but some of the advice you are getting seems to come from people who have not made a long passage with only two people on board.

Time for a reality check from one who is in his 10th year as FT liveaboard and who has crossed oceans.
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Wow, thanks TQA. This is exactly what I need. I guess like anything else, things can go easy but can also get dramatic. I'm a fast learner and every feedback from experience people is good.
Let me hit a few balls, and I,ll get back yo you guys.

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Re: Hunter 45ds vs Moody 45 ac

Another consideration

Some of the boats you are considering have a lot of freeboard; they are not easy to dock in high winds. Nor is it easy to get from the deck to dock in any case.

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Thank you for yourinsights as i too was interested in the Moody 45 and classic. Both the Hunter and Moody are easy on the eyes, but after attending the Strictly Sail Pacific Boat Show, am now very interested in the Tartan 4000 as a new boat or a used Island Packet 46-Any thoughts on those two options? Please advise and thank you for helping a newbie
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Re: Hunter 45ds vs Moody 45 ac

Hum! you have to define what you want and i don't mean only the interior. Those are pretty different boats.

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Re: Hunter 45ds vs Moody 45 ac

y are right, i had a sloppy post and than k you for the clarification. We want to circumnavigate once and then spend lots of time in the inn the South Pacific to new Zealand. I have owned a very nice and comfortable Hunter 40 Legend and am thinking it better to buy an older used boat that is sturdier from thee start than try to retrofit any other boat that starts out ffrom a less sturdy platform. She like the kitchens and Galleys, I like the rigging and center cockpit options wiht lots of storage and of course grreat sailing hulls. The tartan seems sturrdy at our intial review , but is not as "deep" with blue water features as is the Island Packet. I think we both prefer the IP, but need to go to a 110 ear old boat, whereas we could get a new Tartan and get eht one owner boat whle still being sturdy, capable and appeal to her. How does that logic fair to all reading?
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