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Re: Hunter 28.5 1985 buy or not to buy

Surprisingly guy was very supportive and I spent 2 and half hours going through the list. Tapping the service of the deck, I found a few places where balsa has been damaged from the leaks and a few seacocks did not work. He admitted that she has leaks around the mast. I have seen a few spider webs cracks which exposed the balsa to water. Overall its very clean and sound boat, but no way I will pay $15k for her. I offered $13K but he was firm on 15K. Apparently he feels no presser to sell. Not a motivated seller. I do not know how to fix spider cracks and not sure how much damaged the deck. To replace seacocks she has to be taken out of water. I would say, I have a good time and learned a lot from the guy. He has explained to me every pipe and every piece of equipment. Most important, I have surprised myself with patient and determination to found problems on her. The owner actually agreed with me on every issue I had found. After all he basically said that the boat is not perfect and I should not expect it for the price. So I will keep looking…
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Re: Hunter 28.5 1985 buy or not to buy

"Spider cracks" on older boats are not at all unusual, and they rarely penetrate beyond the surface gel coat to allow water into the deck coring.. if indeed water is getting through these cracks they are far beyond the normal to-be-expected 'crazing'.

Worrying about hauling the boat to fix certain issues like seacocks is not really an issue - you're going to have to haul her anyway, and chances are (normally) you can negotiate part of that cost with the seller since it's something a proper survey should bring to the fore in any event.

Sellers with 'firm' prices on old boats that have some issues will succumb to reality eventually.. so maybe don't write him off just yet. At the same time there are lots of boats out there these days..
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Re: Hunter 28.5 1985 buy or not to buy

One thing to remember is that the price range your looking in are 30 year old boats. There is nothing wrong with this my J 29 is an 83. If you find a boat has some wet deck like you did on the Oday 30 then you have a few choices do nothing and the wet core will get wetter, get the area repaired and live with how it looks or get it repaired and re do the entire deck. I went went with the fixing my wet balsa core and having the deck repainted. It is not cheap and you could spend $5K-8K real fast but there are ways to do it cheaper. If you had a shop fix the wet core you could then use Kiwi Grip for the non skid and then paint the smooth portions with some 2 part polyurethane. Its not all that hard to do, I did it on a previous J 29.

I really think you need to settle in on a design look at all of them and find which one you like best and the search for the best one of that design. Remember some boats were made to be like condos down below and some were made to sail very well. Everything is a trade off and the designers are trying to squeeze allot of space into 30 feet. Key thing to do is to actually sit in the head like your using it. The head on the 28.5 seemed to be made to fit a 13 year old my shoulders almost touched the walls on both sides.
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So what happened with this?
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Re: Hunter 28.5 1985 buy or not to buy

I will look into “1980 Beneteau First, 30ft. in excellent condition. Two suits of sails(one new). Brand new reconditioned Yanmar diesel engine (zero hours). Auto pilot never used. New head stay and roller reefing foil. V.H.F. radio, full enclosed head and galley. Cockpit cushions and bumpers anchor and chain. Sleeps seven. Reasonably priced at $8,000.”
Reading about her, I have found that is not the best model. Recommended models are start with 34’ footer and up. The guy owned it for 6 years and as you see did some work. I read somewhere that Beneteau First had stress fatigue cracks and keel is iron and needs to have 4 layers of epoxy. If I like her, I will definitely do survey. This is not the fastest boat, but I can liveaboard on this one. As I have mentioned before, I would like to shuttle from Cape Cod (MA) to Miami. First time I would like to go through inter coast. I can’t find any information on the ICW to go. Is anybody can outline navigation? Thank you in advance.
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