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Oh, bbremer, so close, yet so far.
So true...in a very Zen like way. A wee small voice keeps whispering, "Motor boat, motor boat...". MAKE IT STOP!!!!!
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bbrem, what is your absolute, not a penny more, topped out, this is all I've got budget for a purchase?
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Realizing that a 30 footer is going to blow my budget- I can buy the boat , but not do any significant repairs/restoration- I'm scaling back the size. I looked at a 1970 Ericson 23. I thought, before I saw it, it would be way too small or a complete wreck. However, upon actually looking at it, it is in decent shape and surprisingly roomy for such a compact boat. In fact, the cockpit is much roomier that a Macgregor 26x (oops! The dreaded "M" word! Sorry...) and the below decks is actually quite comfortable, even though you cannot stand up in it. Comes with a Honda 4 stroke, 6 horse, long shaft (ten hours). The owner had just sailed it over from Catalina Harbor, so with a skilled skipper, it can make that crossing. Not that I would attempt it just yet. At $1500, it poses little risk for me and seems a good way to ease into sail baoting. And at that price, I would have more than enough funds to fix her up to my liking. Opinions, please.....( I know those are hard to come by here...)
By a coincidence I was at the yard last Friday to pick up our boat (bottom painting) and there was a restored E-23 Mk2 on a trailer there! Owner had brought it in for some thru hull work, they said. As the smallest Bruce King-designed boat from Ericson Yachts, it looks as nice as ever...
There are enthusiastic owners of this model over at EricsonYachts.org: The Starting Point on Ericson Yachts!, and there's at least one other E-23 web site as well.

With the construction and engineering of the larger Ericsons, it's quite a classic pocket cruiser.

As far as hull size... we spent five years cruising and class racing a Ranger 20. Loved every minute of it. Then came a decade in a fast 26 footer performance cruiser. Since '94 we've been cruising our 34 footer.

Unsolicited Advice from up here in the third balcony: Buy a smaller high quality boat and keep it a while and sail the heck out of it. There are a LOT of unhappy owners out there with large cheapie-build boats that are neither any fun to sail not inexpensive to maintain as their poorly-engineered hulls, rigs, and internal parts fail in a premature old age.
Try to buy all the quality you can afford in the smallest boat that will meet your real needs.

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bbrem, what is your absolute, not a penny more, topped out, this is all I've got budget for a purchase?
$8100.00...8700 when I collect the deposit from the jackass with the motor boat with the spun props who thinks that an offer to purchase is a contract to buy. But that's another story....Why? Whataya got in mind?
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By a coincidence I was at the yard last Friday to pick up our boat (bottom painting) and there was a restored E-23 Mk2 on a trailer there! Owner had brought it in for some thru hull work, they said...
Unsolicited Advice from up here in the third balcony: Buy a smaller high
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If you were there in the afternoon, you'd have seen a 22 foot Fiberform on the 35 ton sling. That's when we found the spun props and I withdrew my offer to purchase. The owner of that boat spent all morning complaining about losing business because he wasn't at his office and then he was really upset when I pulled the plug on the offer to purchase. But, tough ****. Not gonna buy a boat I can't sea trail. He actually expected me to replace the props on my dime because he was absolutly sure it would pass sea trial with new props. I told him that's not how it works. It's his boat. If he wants to repair HIS boat and offer it up for sale again, have at it. Still hasn't refunded my depsit (Not too worried about that. I know how to collect money.). Do sellers not understand that selling a vessel requires some effort on their part?

If I'm posting, I'm soliciting advice. Bring it on y'all!
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Re: Mr. B Buys A Boat- Adventures in Boat Shopping

I admit to being unaware of the realities of the California boat-buying market, but can you really not find a decent Catalina 27 for $8500?

Jesus, I know you're all sick of hearing about it but I bought an excellent Pearson 30 for $4,000! Are the markets of Annapolis and California really so different?
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By a coincidence I was at the yard last Friday to pick up our boat (bottom painting) and there was a restored E-23 Mk2 on a trailer there! Owner had brought it in for some thru hull work, they said. As the smallest Bruce King-designed boat from Ericson Yachts, it looks as nice as ever...
There are enthusiastic owners of this model over at EricsonYachts.org: The Starting Point on Ericson Yachts!, and there's at least one other E-23 web site as well.

With the construction and engineering of the larger Ericsons, it's quite a classic pocket cruiser.

As far as hull size... we spent five years cruising and class racing a Ranger 20. Loved every minute of it. Then came a decade in a fast 26 footer performance cruiser. Since '94 we've been cruising our 34 footer.

Unsolicited Advice from up here in the third balcony: Buy a smaller high quality boat and keep it a while and sail the heck out of it. There are a LOT of unhappy owners out there with large cheapie-build boats that are neither any fun to sail not inexpensive to maintain as their poorly-engineered hulls, rigs, and internal parts fail in a premature old age.
Try to buy all the quality you can afford in the smallest boat that will meet your real needs.

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I admit to being unaware of the realities of the California boat-buying market, but can you really not find a decent Catalina 27 for $8500?

Jesus, I know you're all sick of hearing about it but I bought an excellent Pearson 30 for $4,000! Are the markets of Annapolis and California really so different?
Trouble is having to sort through all the ads that make false, or at least, uninformed claims. I am shocked that so many owners know so little about their boats. I believe that in So. Cal. we have a very large population of floating condos- boats that NEVER get sailed. I've resorted to a paper screening process. I ask a lot of questions via e-mail (so I can have a record of written responses) before I decide if I want to go see the boat. And I am also dismayed my the prevailing attitude of, stop-asking-so-many-questions- just-buy-my-boat! Craig's List boat ads are really entertaining, though.
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If you insist on a stinkpotter, avoid volvo and OMC outdrives.
Go see this one:

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I'm sure you have done this search, right?

California sailboats for sale by owner.
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If you insist on a stinkpotter, avoid volvo and OMC outdrives.
Go see this one:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...url=&imc=pg-fs
Can't think of of anything stinkier than a diesel. I looked at a diesel powered CAT30 and could not tolerate the smell below decks. I've looked at CAT30's with dead Atomics in the engine bay and a small outboard on the transom. No thanks. I have done the search on this sight, but not for a week or so. Going there now to see what's popped up recently. Thanks for the reminder. I just remembered. I've seen this boat listed before. There was something not right about it....

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