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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

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The owner of the surveying company came by just now. He looked over the boat, and acknowledged mistakes had been made. I appreciated his thoroughness and honesty about my situation, and his assessment of the repairs I'm facing and how I might tackle them. We've left it at that for now, we'll both reflect on things, and talk over a refund of a portion of the survey cost to help with the mast support repair.

That he took the time to do this, didn't bull **** me about any part of the situation says a lot about his integrity, and the values of his company.

Edit:I'll be more detailed when I am not writing from my phone.
Why isn't he refunding the entire thing? It sounds like it was a completely useless survey - did it catch anything?
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

The through hulls are all accounted for as being on the boat. Also I do need another fire extinguisher. Jokes aside, feel free to stop by, I've got a copy of the survey on board. You can see what you think of the survey vs the boat. I've had varying opinions on the matter from different folks. Plus I'd be happy to meet any forum folks
I'm hoping the company will come through with the refund, and I appreciate that they at least acknowledge the issues. Whether you would feel comfortable with them you could decide after comparing the two?
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

Hey Jg, hope the restoration is going okay. My boat is back on the dock at Burrard now, send me a PM and maybe I'll come find you next time I'm in the area... wouldn't mind seeing your boat and talking about your 'experiences'...
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

Damn missed that, last few days I've been working away a bit on the boat. Cabinets are almost all apart now, excluding the galley area which I think I can leave. Construction adhesive is all chiseled off etc. Wish I'd known you were in the area! Faster came by on Friday, but that was before we started the newest round of "are you ******* kidding me"
after which we have all the cabinetry apart in the main cabin except the galley and icebox.
I'll never believe the line about them being structural again though... Pictures to follow.

So long as the hull is sound and engine is OK, I think we're approaching the turn around point to start building back again.
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So long as the hull is sound and engine is OK...
It's an Alberg, with a Yanmar. you're good to go.
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

I said that about 5000$ ago too... lol. Still no clue what to do with the mast beam. I've got more pictures. Faster(Ron) came by today and had a look too. A friend has offered to have a go at the boat with a thermal camera and some heaters see if we can't see anything in there, otherwise I'm stumped. Thinking of doing it from the inside now, outside looks good, interior ceiling looks bad. Not sure what's there.
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

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Which cabinets did you remove?

As far as the beam, whether there is water in the deck core or not the current beam is not strong enough and the laminations are coming unglued.

What are you looking for with a thermal camera?
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

main cabinets in the cabin.
The suggestion was to soak the deck for a few days, then heat up the inside and look from the outside, see if we can see anything around the mast step.
I agree. But how to fix it is the question I have. The deck doesn't match the inside for damage, was it already shored up, was it botched? How can the gel coat/deck look fine when the inside is sinking etc. Why cut out top when the bottom has issues, but top looks good. I'm just not sure how to approach it basically.
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

A moisture meter would be easier and maybe a more reliable way of telling the core condition. I should have brought mine over when I was there.

I tapped the deck around the mast and it seemed solid, no dead spots that I could tell. Maybe the solution is to replace the beam, which isn't in good shape, with a better one and leave it at that. I would include aluminum as we discussed between the beam and bulkhead.

Whether the top gets cut open now, later, or never the beam needs replacing. Replace the beam and see what happens over time.
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

I had a look at this issue the other day.. it is odd, as Jeremy describes. The deck from above appears sound, no visible deflection and no pooling of water (and we've had some rain lately) as you'd expect around the mast step with any localized depression. Doesn't mean that an original camber isn't somewhat, but not obviously, less, but from above it appears 'normal'. No crazing or stress cracks in that area at all. No obvious delam from a 'tap test' in that area either.

He's had some information that an aluminum plate was inserted under the mast step at some point. If this is true it was done from the inside, which may explain the apparent 'depression' which might be additional thickness, but the beam does seem stressed. In addition there's some separated lightweight tabbing and what appears to be some settling on the forward side of the main bulkhead's port side of the passageway to the Vberth (well off-centre and evidenced mainly by the fractured light tabbing). But again no similar indication on deck.

So his challenge now is to try to determine what's really happened/happening in that region, along with cleaning up a lot of other ill advised butchery below by the PO.
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