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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

Thanks, I don't really know what else to say, but now I guess you've given me a goal to live up to, and not turn into another idiot in a boat he can't afford to own or repair.


Update: The CS36T is gone. I went to see her, she was a lovely boat, and I was actually surprised the owner was selling her, that well found, with such extensive spares and equipment, I didn't think he'd save much going smaller. I am glad for him that he has decided to keep her, it was obvious he didn't want to let her go.
Would have been a perfect liveaboard I think.

The steel boat is nice, the hull is in amazing shape, well cared for and the original galvanizing seems to have really helped. The interior is brilliantly set up to ventilate the whole bilge, even in the deepest part there is only a light hint of brown on the paint, no visible rust and no flaking anywhere. But the outfitting is much rougher, not a lot of spares, raw water cooled original engine, no shower, no holding tank, euro plug AC, crazed plexi windows, 20+year old sails, old rigging etc. And it's a custom steel boat.
So it seems like a great boat, in need of a bit of work, which puts it at the high end of the price range for what it is to my mind. Asking 53k now.

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Finally got a better look at the CS33, it is nicely equipped, asking. There are two almost side by side in Nanaimo, and the one asking more is significantly rougher, without the upgrades.
She is powered by a 20hp Bukh diesel that was completely rebuilt in 2000, and has an inventory of 6 sails. She is equipped with a Simrad Autohelm, Hydrovane self steering gear $9000 value 2 anchors with chain and rode and much more.
1986 Canadian Sailcraft CS33 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Lastly there is the Alberg still, still well equipped, still well priced. Still asking 16k.


The steel boat is great, at 30k I'd be all over it, that would leave enough left over to clean and repaint, new sails, add a holding tank, redo the electronics, and replace the old laptop+pirated software with an ipad or something.
The alberg is still liveable, and nicely put together, albeit small.
The CS33, is basically a totally comfortable liveaboard, but no fridge or solar, and it's pretty close to the upper end of my budget still when accounting for that.

I'm still quite interested in the Alberg, the suggestion of the best boat being the one that's paid off has some merit, but the 33 I could pay off in two years, and it seems like a capable boat.
Any thoughts on where to proceed from here, or boats I may have missed?
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Re: Trying another tack... Looking for the right boat near Vancouver, BC.

Personally, esp if there are several years of BC liveaboard prior to any 'voyaging' I'd lean towards the CS33... partly from a liveable space point of view, superior suitability to the local conditions, and overall quality/aesthetics. But I should state at the outset I'm a 'finkeel/spaderudder' type so there is a natural bias there as well.

CS owners are in general strongly supportive of their boats, and I think as a builder they earned that support with a good, solid boat, and a well-designed, attractive look that will stand the test of time.
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Any thoughts on where to proceed from here, or boats I may have missed?
This is on Craigs right now - on the Fraser I think. Note the price - worth checking out I think. Tom Timmerman is (was?) a local designer - had a nice eye.

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Boat is in good condition well built needs cleaning current owner planned to sail her to Mexico but his business now prevents this ,he wants it sold to support purchase of needed business equipment, all offers will be considered custom built Timmerman design

MAJOR PRICE DROP to $11900 obo
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Here's the link. REDUCED 34 pilot house aluminum sail boat
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Howdjoo do that?

P.S. there's also a Hunter 34 on Craigs - the old Legend series I think - the "conventional looking" ones with wedge cabintops - asking $37K. A Hunter would be as close to ideal for liveaboard as you could get IMHO.
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P.S. there's also a Hunter 34 on Craigs - the old Legend series I think - the "conventional looking" ones with wedge cabintops - asking $37K. A Hunter would be as close to ideal for liveaboard as you could get IMHO.
It was hard to find - I finally found it by searching "roller furling"

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It was hard to find - I finally found it by searching "roller furling"

Copy and paste the link was the rest.

You mean this one?
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I'm not sure - the one I saw was on Kijiji, NOT Craigs - my bad.

Hunter 34 Sailboat, Clean, ready to cruise, w/ moorage - British Columbia Sailboats For Sale - Kijiji British Columbia Canada.

Edit - I just cross checked the phone number - it's the same boat.
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Looked at the pilothouse online, nice but a couple things I didn't like. Closed the deal on the alberg tonight. 13k.
Funny since I started with a bigger budget and ended up with the proverbial 10k blue water boat. 40 gallons water, 55 diesel, 40lbs propane.


vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-boats-watercraft-sailboats-Alberg-30-Offshore-Cruiser-W0QQAdIdZ358747577




**Insulated from keel to deck with VAPOR lock. Makes a huge difference in comfort, heat, and condensation. Cool in summer, warm in winter.

**New Dickson Propane Heater (2011) Got me through the winter living on the hook!!

**New Dickson 2 burner stove. (2011)

**Brand new Jabasco head with holding tank. (US coast guard approved)--(2011.)

**Brand new cruising sail main. (2011) Worth $9000.00

**Brand new surround sound stereo. (ipod dock and universal mp3, FM...)

**New Yanmar Diesel Engine. (2011) Less then 100 hours) Serviced every three months. Worth $10,000. Alone.

**New interior LED Efficient lighting.

**X2 120 amp hour house main and starting bat. 2011.

**80% of the wiring changed. (2010)

**Professional offshore solid anchor set up:
--200" 5/16th chain, with 35lb genuine CQR ($1000.00 set up!!)
--200" new nylon rode, with a 45LB danforth. (secondary)
--200" extra rode.
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Other stuff:
--Full Spinaker set up
--3 head sails
--Self furling head sail.
--Lifevests.

**Selling with all boat gear: (tons of rode, vest, lights, shackles, tools, fuel jerry's.......)

**New foam settees and Vbirth mattressescoming just put in.
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Congratulations - Alberg 30's are great boats and you got a fantastic deal.
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