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Catalina 320

Well I think we pretty much are narrowing it down to a short list. We decided to up our spending limit a lot. What we're looking for is a walk through transom, lead keel, large cockpit, newer (post 1990) boat. At the moment I'm really looking at those Catalina 320's, they are ranging from around 50K on up. But a '97 Beneteau Oceanis 321 that I read about in Spinsheet looks really nice at about 50K. When we get back from Johnstown PA Bike Week I guess we're going to have to visit these boats.

We did see a 320 today while waiting for the tall ships to leave Baltimore, it was really moving out...Then there's that Catalina 36. We'll get there.
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Re: Catalina 320

The walk thru transom is a huge deal for me, can't imagine having a boat without it. Everyone who comes aboard it seems mentions how great it is; each time I think of something two feet longer that is tops on my list.
My Catalina 28 is a tall rig of the original vintage, not the mk II. Much less money than the 320. If you are sailing alone or as a couple with occasional guests it may be just right and will leave you a hefty sailing kitty for chartering in other places.
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Re: Catalina 320

We're 'sorta' shopping and the C320 is on our list. However we are finding the storage space sorely lacking compared to what we have (this will be a common theme going newer)

The V berth is smallish too, with tight access.
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Re: Catalina 320

Our charter boat was an Oceanis 32. We didn't like the layout at all. For one thing the V-berth was considerably shorter than that in our C30. The valve to switch the head from tank to overboard was in a PITA spot while the one on our boat is conveniently located. A bunch of other little stuff that as the week went on just aggravated me. I was worried that I'd come home and not like our 30 YO boat as much, but that didn't happen at all. I have a new appreciation for it after spending a week on the Oceanis.
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Re: Catalina 320

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The walk thru transom is a huge deal for me, can't imagine having a boat without it. Everyone who comes aboard it seems mentions how great it is; each time I think of something two feet longer that is tops on my list.
My Catalina 28 is a tall rig of the original vintage, not the mk II. Much less money than the 320. If you are sailing alone or as a couple with occasional guests it may be just right and will leave you a hefty sailing kitty for chartering in other places.
Yeah, we're a sailing couple with occasional guests. We had 6 of us out today but thats very rare. In length I want to go into the 30's, my Dad mentioned that he would go out with us more if we had a bigger boat, he's 82and would feel better with more stability and a decent size head. About the 50K I'd be comfortable in that range but would really prefer to spend less and of course more if nessassary.

Hi Donna! A C-30 isn't completely out of the picture either, there is a 1994 Catalina MKIII up in the Delaware River that we could sail down through the C&D, being way up there its basically a freshwater boat although I don't have too much of an idea what a hassle buying a boat out of state and transfering it to Moneyland might be. They want almost $40K. Looking at boats up in that area is all DeniseO30's fault , she told me about a smoke'n deal up there on an Allied Princess, I don't have the time for another project but for someone who does it's hard to beat. I started looking at other boats in that area too being that it's fresh water.

What they say about the 320 sailing fast is true, out in the Patapsco today we saw one really moving out. Of course we also saw a C36 which past us up...well at least I'm in the Catalina camp. As I said we'll start seriously shopping in a few weeks.

I always seem to buy a boat after Johnstown Bike Week, 2 so far.
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Re: Catalina 320

Go with the 320. It's a sweet boat, there is one 3 slips down from me and I look at it a lot. IMO, it's a better constructed, straight-ahead boat. No nonsense.

Again, IMO, within reason don't worry about the price. In a few years the differential won't seem like much. I've never heard someone say "I really love my boat but there was this other one that I didn't like as much that was $10k cheaper; I should have bought it." Never heard that.
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Re: Catalina 320

Catalina 320 phrf rating is around 140s
Catalina 30 phrf ratings around 170s
Beneteau 32- phrf ratings around 140


http://offshore.ussailing.org/Assets...+Handicaps.pdf

Those are just ratings and have nothing to do with comfort and layout. If you are looking for a fast boat with cruising cabalilites...look at the sabres, and the c&c's

If you just want fast J's
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Re: Catalina 320

When looking for a "new" boat in the 32-35 foot range a couple years ago, the boats you mention were all considered. My criteria were slightly different, with good sailing qualities the top priority, and an open transom a nice-to-have but not essential feature. I eliminated the 320 for the reasons Faster mentioned - poor storage and tight vee berth. I basically took all the Beneteaus off the short list except for the First Series racer-cruisers. Keep in mind that most Benes will have iron keels while Cats will have lead keels.

A quick check of the national PHRF database shows some slightly different numbers than quoted above.

Bene 321 - 162
Cat 320 - 153/159 (fin/shoal)
Cat 30 - 171 to 192 (many configurations, fastest is fin keel/tall rig)

FWIW, the boat I ended up with is a Cal 33-2 shoal which rates 138. I have no trouble passing Cat 320s.

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Re: Catalina 320

Jim,

Our numbers were similar. Each boat has a range ( equipment dependent- sails etc). I gave the boats the benefits of the doubt and took their lowest number.

You boat is quicker than the 320 for sure.

Swamp take your time in picking your next boat. $50,000 is a good amount to spend and opens up a lot of different boats There are a lot of considerations to take into account such as storage, keel construction, size of berths, engine type etc. Having met you I would tell you that Jim is correct in the size of the V in the Cat 320 being small for you.

I would also look at Tartans, Sabres, C&C's.

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"I would also look at Tartans, Sabres, C&C's."

Yeah. Look at Sabres.
Really nice boats, but they don't do open transoms. For $50k you can get a nice one from the '80s. Generally well kept vs. many boats from high volume builders. but I'm biased......
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