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Thanks for the link to Delphia. The 46cc looks sort of like an Oyster but for what appears to be significantly less money. They appear to have dealers in the USA so I should probably check them out.
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Re: Solid/Bluewater Center Cockpit with modern interior?

Delphias are strong well made boats. One 40ft solo circumnavigated non stop recently.

Owner of Delphia 40-3 sails the world single handed.


The boat is a CC version of the Delphia 47:




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Re: Solid/Bluewater Center Cockpit with modern interior?

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Hi Folks,

Long time lurker, first time poster with a question that may rankle.

After over a decade of daysailing and doing short weekend cruises to nearby locations - CA Channel Islands mostly - on our Newport 30 MkII, we've decided to step things up with a larger boat that can handle guests comfortably and has the potential to make long passages in the relatively near future. I'm about four years away from an early retirement and would love to grow into a larger boat so that we can hit the ground (sea) running when I'm no longer office bound.

We've decided on a CC (and please, no arguments of CC vs. AC or recommendations of boats that are not CC monohulls) in the 41-46 foot range. One requirement is that the boat have decent passage berths - an attribute that is strangely hard to find. Another, and this is something that both the SO and I agree on, is a modern, sleek interior.

Contrary to prevailing taste, we tend to like the "european apartment style" look employed by Dehler and Hanse and have absolutely no issue if some of the interior work is done by machine. Unfortunately, the hull forms, relatively light displacement and cockpit orientation of these brands don't work for us. If we're going bluewater cruising, I'd prefer not to have a giant aft cockpit with dual wheels and a boat that bobs like a cork in a swell.

Can anyone recommend a CC boat in this size range that offers such an interior? This is an "all things being equal" type of question. It goes without saying that the boat needs to be seakindly and beefy. I'd prefer a sharper bow entry as opposed to the flatter bottoms we're seeing these days. It'd also be great to have the option for a cutter/dual headsail rig.

While I know that boats like Hylas are semi-custom, does that extend to the look/design of the interior fit out? Everything I see on the websites of makers like Hylas, Passport and even HR looks a bit too old fashioned for our tastes.

Also, both cost and sheer size come into play here. We'd like to keep the price below seven figures if possible and the size under 46. As someone who grew up sailing of and on, I'm stunned at how large cruising yachts have gotten. I'm neither a pauper nor an ocean racer but the fact that Hylas' smallest model is a 46 is pretty intimidating.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Cold - one of the premier yacht designers is on this forum. You've probably heard of him, BobPerry. You really should talk to him. He works with clients as a consultant to help them figure out exactly what's best for them. Or, he can design exactly what you want.

And he's a really cool dude.

Here's his member page where you can send him a PM:

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Thanks for the tip about Bob Perry. Of course I'm familiar with the guy, he's an absolute legend in yacht design. I'll send him a PM.
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I'm no legend. God knows I am as far from a "cool dude" as you could find. But, I have to admit Smackers and I get along just fine. "Cool" is relative. I'm just a guy sitting here with two dogs who has spent the past 52 years devoting his life to designing sail boats. Apart from that I am as dumb as a stump.

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Bob,

You just literally made me laugh out loud. As I'm stuck working today, the humor is certainly welcome.

When I get some free time, I'll send you a pm.
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Yeah, Bob's pretty good at that yacht designer stuff.

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With your "under 7 figures" budget, you should have plenty of options. How about these:

Passport 456CC
Najad 410 or 440

Maybe stretch to an Outbound 52?

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Don't buy until you have looked at an Amel. Really solid blue water boats. Highest no of circumnavigations related to percentage sold of any major production boat.
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Re: Solid/Bluewater Center Cockpit with modern interior?

Is anyone familiar with Southerly? Their new 420 looks quite nice. A swing keel was not on my wish list but I've got to admit it makes the kind of exploring I'd eventually want to do more of a possibility.

I also recently saw a writeup on Gunfleet - a new company started by one of the people from Oyster, I believe. Their 43 looks amazing but I've heard it's pricey, like nearly $1 million US for sailaway.
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