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meridiansahoy 07-07-2012 05:20 AM

Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
Hi All,

I looked at a Kelly Peterson 44 today and was really disappointed to find that my ample height was left about 3" short in the height of the Saloon. I don't think its a show stopper considering that the KP44 is such a good boat for offshore, but I'm looking for any ideas from fellow longitudinally challenged purchasers for a good boat to spend a couple of years crossing oceans on.

Cheers
Hugh

TropicCat 07-07-2012 06:15 AM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
Have a look at a Morgan 41 Out Island

chall03 07-07-2012 06:46 AM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
Have you had a look at a Peterson 46????

I don't know for sure about headroom but it may just be that little bit better that it makes all the difference.

I am a big fan of both boats.

SimonV 07-07-2012 07:06 AM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
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Originally Posted by TropicCat (Post 893658)
Have a look at a Morgan 41 Out Island

Forget the Morgan 41 Out Island its an ugly boat mass produced for the Caribbean bare boat charter fleets. Head room on a barge still leaves you with a barge.Head room will be a problem with most boats, mine has 6'5".

sea_hunter 07-07-2012 08:52 AM

Endeavour E43K or Island Packet ip465.

meridiansahoy 07-07-2012 08:41 PM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
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Originally Posted by sea_hunter (Post 893698)
Endeavour E43K or Island Packet ip465.

Cheers, I've seen a few of these ip465s around the place, but way out of my price range and doesn't have my taste in romantic appeal.

I've read a few reviews saying the windward performance of the Endeavour 43s aren't great, anyone heard otherwise?

SimonV, that comment about the Morgans was about the same reaction as I had to what I saw available. I'm still pretty keen on the centre cockpit though so the Ericson 39B might not fit the bill.

Can anyone comment on an Adams 12/13 CC for headroom? Certainly meets my requirement of good sailing characteristics.

killarney_sailor 07-07-2012 09:14 PM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
I checked the headroom in my Bristol 45.5 and it is about 6'5" in the main cabin and less in other parts of the boat (quite high in the cockpit though if you remove the bimini). I remember years ago seeing a 10 metre (as in the measurement rule) that had been built for the king of Sweden (or Norway or Denmark) who was 6' 9" but boats with really big headroom are rare. Designers are trying to keep the profile under control and every inch lower helps.

meridiansahoy 07-07-2012 09:55 PM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
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Originally Posted by killarney_sailor (Post 893926)
I checked the headroom in my Bristol 45.5 and it is about 6'5" in the main cabin and less in other parts of the boat (quite high in the cockpit though if you remove the bimini). I remember years ago seeing a 10 metre (as in the measurement rule) that had been built for the king of Sweden (or Norway or Denmark) who was 6' 9" but boats with really big headroom are rare. Designers are trying to keep the profile under control and every inch lower helps.

Hi Killarney,

Thanks for measuring that headroom, I've just been looking at Bristol 45.5 and very much liking what I see. I'll be checking in with you regularly to see how those passages go over to the Maldives.

I've been looking around Oz for a nice Bristol, but so far not much luck. Were you looking for long before you found? Or was yours a fairly wide selection criteria like mine?

Cheers
Hugh

sea_hunter 07-07-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meridiansahoy:893921
Quote:

Originally Posted by sea_hunter (Post 893698)
Endeavour E43K or Island Packet ip465.

Cheers, I've seen a few of these ip465s around the place, but way out of my price range and doesn't have my taste in romantic appeal.

I've read a few reviews saying the windward performance of the Endeavour 43s aren't great, anyone heard otherwise?

That's not completely true. Some of it depends on sail configuration and some on steering load. They have a significant weather helm and with a minimally sufficient Edson pulley system it's difficult to overcome. We replaced the Edson with a Capilano hydraulic system compensating for the weather helm. Ours points well and is easier to handle with the new hydraulics. Keep in mind that the E43 has a relatively shallow draft, the same as a ip465 at 6' so there is some drift but is easy compensated by keeping her as vertical as possible. Having a 14' beam she's somewhat uncomfortable in a following sea and it's sometimes better tack your way out, or adjusting course to put it on the quarters. One thing is for sure, if you desire a CC with over 6' of headroom you're going have to let go of something else because all of those boats have similar sailing characteristics. The Endeavour E43 is similar to the ip465 in many ways as they are both designed by Bob Johnson albeit 30 years apart, yet can be purchased at a fraction of the cost. The are so many thing we like about ours we've come to overlook her few shortfalls and that is the way it is tonight. Good luck in your search and education.

meridiansahoy 07-07-2012 10:29 PM

Re: Good Centre Cockpit with 6"5' Head Room
 
Thanks sea_hunter, great appraisal of the Endeavour 43. I'll look into it a bit more and keep you on the list for advice. ;)


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