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Hello again everyone... shopping for bigger

OK... first off, I am not the average consumer/sailor. I intend to trailer but its not your normal 7500 lb limits... its 14,000 lb consisting of boat and trailer with triples and a sliding tongue extension for float on/off. Currently I have a outboard version 27' Bayliner Buccaneer which it hauls fine (8500 gross trailer weight behind a gas 3/4 ton, please ignore the lack of paint... I didn't have time when I built it and get the Buccaneer home to Ohio from Green Bay in mid October before winter weather, still isn't painted, but I will sometime).

But I want to go a bit bigger... I now have a 1 ton Cummins Dodge dually, and I could care less if it needs a wide load permit so long as it doesn't need an escort.

Drives me crazy... the mirrors on a semi are about 10ft... but I can't pull over 8'4" with out the permit. I yanked 53 and 48' 102s all over the country for three years... I could care less if its 10'6" or so wide or how long it is. I'll not pull it into somewhere it can't fit.

So who made something in an older 33-36 ft range but not over 11,000 lbs, and 10ft beam (or close). Anyone? There are several in the 30-31 ft at 10k lbs but I'd like to go longer if one was ever made. Prefer a pilot house and/or center cockpit. I will also modify for single handed sailing. I intend to retire on it in northern climates as well.

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Re: Hello again everyone... shopping for bigger

The Seaward 32 is the only thing that comes to mind.
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Re: Hello again everyone... shopping for bigger

C&c 30?
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Re: Hello again everyone... shopping for bigger

The 32(35) has potential. When did they first start building them? As one can see... I have to work with 90% or more depreciated boats that are still sound.

Oh, a couple of clarifiers.

1) It need not have been designed a "trailerable". As long as I can clear 13'6" (most semi box vans are 13'4" to 13'5") on the highway I am happy. They are not quite as "top heavy" as they would look on a trailer... the keel's weight is low. Now the really deep keels may be an issue... depends. I can drop the center and rear cross members to the top of the axle's height. I could also replace the axles with drop axles too if that additional 5" was critical. I will raise the bunkers to whatever height the keel needs. I can also extend the tongue a few more feet too if that would be necessary to get it deep enough for float. Fixed keel is likely limited to about 5 ft or so depending on the topsides.

2) I can rebuild any engine or transmission (providing there is something to work with), do any wood work or fiberglass work. But I am NOT looking for a major resto project. I can however take on repairs some will not or would be cost prohibitive to hire out. Its a matter of how extensive and how long it would take.

BTW, I built that trailer in 3 1/2 weeks (almost from scratch), 12 hour days... it started as a $300 1944 donor 16ft low 9000 lb tandem flatbed with C-channel side frames and a bad tongue. Gave me something to work with. I extended it to a 25 foot "bed" area with 7 ft integrated 6"C tongue rails (dovetailed 24" into the old 6" C channels and also added a stiffener of 1/2"x2" rail on risers 4" above the 6" C. Triples axle group is sliding cradle under the Cs and has an 18000 lb capacity on 6000 lb axles and springs. Tows just fine.

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C&c 30?
Didn't the C&Cs have hull issues after a while? Seems I heard that somewhere when I was looking in 07.

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One of the best built blue water fast cruisers ever built -- Cascade 36. 10 feet of beam. 6 foot draft.
Lots of 'em (relatively speaking) on the west coast.

Beautiful boats, in a CCA / Cal 40 sort of way. Designed by Robert Smith and built in Portland by Yacht Constructors.

Some friends of ours just returned to PDX last week after 4 years in Mexico in one.

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Re: Hello again everyone... shopping for bigger

Just to verify...

Assuming the true definition of displacement is the amount of water displaced to float. Now what about stuff that becomes more or less neutral buoyant below the water line? When I see a displacement value... that doesn't really equate 100% to total out of water weight does it? I noticed for the "trailerable" Seaward 32 spec it had a larger total weight than its displacement. If I am right I have to add some % to advertised displacement to get true weight if on a trailer. Whats your thoughts on this?

(I'll be at the legal edge on the 1 ton although with a retarder installed I'm not adverse to hauling 10% more. So I need to think about this.)

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Re: Hello again everyone... shopping for bigger

Not exactly the sort of boat you are looking for, but the Hobie 33 is the largest "trailerable" monohull I'm aware of.

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Alberg 30's are are trailerable..
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Didn't the C&Cs have hull issues after a while? Seems I heard that somewhere when I was looking in 07.

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