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My offer was accepted the other day on a 43' 1978 Gulfstar Mark II center cockpit ketch rig. Planning to live aboard and sail for the next couple years here in NH and then head for warmer climates!

I'm scrambling a bit to line up a surveyor within the acceptance period. I obtained a survey that was done 4 years ago by the previous seller. The current owner never had the boat surveyed. The surveyor that performed that survey 4 years ago is available in the time frame. He seems qualified and knowledgeable.

Does anyone think it would be beneficial to have this surveyor look at the boat again now 4 years later or do you think I would be better off with fresh eyes on the boat?

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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

I see nothing wrong with have the same surveyor check out the boat again. I don't see any conflict of interest.
Since you have his original survey you must be satisfied that it is through enough otherwise you would not be considering him.

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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

I did that as well.
The surveyor did a substandard job. Since he "already knew" the boat, he skimmed over areas where I thought he should have paid more attention. He used his previous survey on the computer as a template and therefore I received many more mistakes on the forms than I'd like. i.e. The previous owner replaced something here or there and although it was noted during our discussion, the surveyor neglected to change it on the form.

I don't think that's a function of using the same surveyor but of sloppy work.

On the other hand, I had more insight about the boat's history as the surveyor told me about what he saw the last time around as well. some positive, some negative.
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There are two surveys, prepurchase and insurance. Make sure your surveyor is comfortable with this and doesn't double charge. Personally I would use a diffferent surveyor as those things overlooked the first time could be overlooked again. You'll also end up with a good comparison but must be tempered with the fact 4 years in boat years is like 20 human years; a lot of things change, especially in an older boat.
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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

I don't see any inherent advantage, nor disadvantage. It totally depends on whether that surveyor has a good reputation for doing thorough and knowledgeable work. Four years is too long for the prior survey to have any impact or value on the new one. If the surveyor suggested otherwise, that would be a red flag.
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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

Thanks everyone for the quick replies! I made an addendum to my purchase and sale for an extra week so I can get the surveyor I want and it won't be such a scramble. This is my biggest purchase to date so I feel better doing exactly what I think is best.
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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

Dont you guys think it would be nice to get some fresh eyes on this boat. I would hire a new surveyor and get a fresh out look on this boat. At least you might be able to compair notes on the 2 surveyors!!
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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

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Thanks everyone for the quick replies! I made an addendum to my purchase and sale for an extra week so I can get the surveyor I want and it won't be such a scramble. This is my biggest purchase to date so I feel better doing exactly what I think is best.
Absolutely, Dinks. And I agree with Marcel re: fresh eyes. And you've already got the other survey to provide history. Seems like the best of both.
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Thanks everyone for the quick replies! I made an addendum to my purchase and sale for an extra week so I can get the surveyor I want and it won't be such a scramble...
good move. while you are at it, be sure to schedule an engine evaluation by an independent mechanic, and a rigger to look over the standing rigging. Most hull surveyors exclude those areas from their survey as they appreciate the specialized knowledge each requires.
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Re: Survey by previous surveyor

Using the same surveyor should be an advantage. He will be able to tell you that recommended fixes were done or not. He can also determine if the boat has deteriorated any since the last survey.

The primary purpose of a survey is to determine the condition of the vessel for purchase and insurance needs. The secondary and just as important purpose is to educate you about the vessel and it's systems.

In this area, I would highly recommend Tony Theriault. Theriault Marine Consulting - Marine Surveys & Yacht Services - Maine marine surveyor, consultant Tony Theriault
He did the survey on my Caliber and knows a lot about boats and ABYC code.
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