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Re: Boat Builder Reputations (who makes good boats?)

You will probably find that many of the highest quality builders priced themselves out of the shorter end of the market. This is especially true of Sabre. The very good news is that these builders made great smaller boats in the 1980's and early 90's. I had a 1982 Sabre 28 and it was an excellent boat. A Cal is also great in that size.

A Catalina 22 or 25 is an excellent choice in your size range. I have many fond memories of my dad's 22, 27, and 30. I worked for 2 dealers and can attest to their quality.

On the newer end of the market, there are some awesome sport boats out there - Melges 20 and more. If you want to go fast and don't care about creature comforts, this is a great choice.
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I am on my 3rd Catalina Capri boat (upgraded through the line)... they have a reputation among sailors as being "cheaply built." I've had quite the opposite experience thusfar with them.
There are a LOT of armchair sailors who cannot make the distinction between lightly built and cheaply built, particularly in trailerables, which need to be light.

There is a difference.
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Catalina's are great boats for their intended purpose. Frank Butler (who gave my dad a tour of the factory) would never say that it's a blue water boat intended for Cape Horn. He wanted to get people on the water without costing enormous sums of money. They keep cost down through smart engineering, volume, and smart choice of components (like Garhauser). I agree with JonB and wouldn't say that they're cheaply built at all. But I also wouldn't exceed their design limits.

We easily handled 8'-10' seas and 25+kts off Montauk until we accidentally gybed and blew the gooseneck apart (oops).
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I am looking for a used sailboat of <26'. The ones I see most often are: Cal, Capri, Catalina, Hunter, MacGregor, and O'Day. ............I will day-sail the boat in coastal waters off southern California. (Cabin need not be large.) It will be dry stored on a trailer and ramp launched/recovered each time. So far, I have had one good suggestion - a MacGregor 26D/S.

Which builders are the best for the price?

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Tons of S and D's sailing in southern Calif. and the factory, which still makes Macs, is there also.

The Hunter is a higher build quality, but costs more. I guess it is what kind of budget you have. Mac's are generally bare bone boats, but a lot of us liked that as then we made it into a boat....



...that works for us and how we used it. I'd look at them all and talk to their owners and then judge. If you follow my links below you will see that there are three very active internet boards for Mac's and I'm sure you could find the same for the other boats.

Here is also a video on the S/D...

Mac26S_PromoCD.wmv

Good luck with whatever you find that works for you and it sounds like you have an open mind on the whole thing,

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