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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Thanks Hylyte, that sounds like very good advice.

I was wondering about that bilge under the engine. In fact, I already dropped a 2" stainless hook in there, so I'll have to get really well acquainted with it soon

Chain plates look ok, the PO had replaced the rigging two years ago and said he re-sealed the plates at that time. The interesting thing is that they seem to be attached to a pretty wide glass tab that holds the bulkheads in place. I thought the original arrangement had them attached to the actual wood, so maybe one of the previous owners had the bulkheads fixed (the last one hadn't done it). I'll have to poke around them, as the surveyor wasn't all that thorough.

I think the most encouraging thing about this boat is that the PO did his first ever coastal ocean race on her last year, so he said he really went through all the important bits and made sure everything was tightly attached. Not to mention that we're keeping in touch and will probably end up belonging to the same club This really feels like just the right deal for me.

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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Alex--

I do not know what side of the Bay you are living on but one Club to investigate is (click on) Richmond Yacht Club Your contact there would be Antonia Vanoni at (510) 237-2821. She can/will be happy to introduce you to some of the members and get you acquainted with folks. RYC is a real sailing club--both racing and cruising--and the members are very friendly and helpful. We have been members since the mid-1970's and maintain our membership even though we now live in southwest Florida. Never the less, we still display an RYC Burgee on our Transom (crossed flags) and will occasionally race under the BYC Burgee. If you're interested send me a PM.

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PS: RYC has an excellent yacht harbor by the way, and quite affordable.
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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Actually both Cal 2-27 and Pearson 28 were at RYC, and Cal 29 is still at BYC until tomorrow, so I visited there a few times. The club and the harbor looked very nice and active, lots of boats, lots of events it seemed. I was there on the day of their season-ending halloween regata and it looked like lots of fun, lots of costumes, a live band cruising around the docks.

Unfortunately, I live in Cupertino, right next to San Jose, it takes me over an hour to get there without traffic, so for now I'm planning to get a slip at Coyote Point in San Mateo, about 30min drive and I'm hoping somewhat within reach of the Gate. Next year I'm thinking of moving to the city, if that happens I'll have to look around for something closer to all the action, RYC would definitely be high on the list.

If you find yourself back in the area, drop me a line. I'd love to thank you in person for all the good advice.

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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

In that size boat, Coyote Pt. to the Central Bay is close to a three hour haul.
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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Yes, that is what I'm guestimating. I'll have to start early to peek out of the Gate, but it is still better than about 5 hours out of Redwood City. The next harbor north is Oyster Point, and that would be close to an hour drive... There's also Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay, but ocean sailing is a little out of my reach just yet. As I said, if you know of other options, I'd appreciate them.
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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Since it is your first boat and you'll probably be doing some work on it I'd keep it close to home at first. You can move it closer to better sailing destinations later. I'm on my second boat, and on both my first and second boats I've been visiting it multiple times per week for the first 4-6 months as I work on projects and get it setup the way that I like. After that my visits trailed off and having it farther away wouldn't be a problem. Boats are easy to move and moorage isn't hard to find when you aren't in a hurry.
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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

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Since it is your first boat and you'll probably be doing some work on it I'd keep it close to home at first. You can move it closer to better sailing destinations later. I'm on my second boat, and on both my first and second boats I've been visiting it multiple times per week for the first 4-6 months as I work on projects and get it setup the way that I like. After that my visits trailed off and having it farther away wouldn't be a problem. Boats are easy to move and moorage isn't hard to find when you aren't in a hurry.
Alex has a very good point. You probably won't want to take the boat into The Slot until you get some experience anyway. Keep her closer to home so you can work on the bizzilion little projects a newly acquired boat always seems to have and polish you sailing skills in the South Bay for a while. Just keep off the shoals and keep away from those old pilings/submerged breakwaters/et cetera.
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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

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Yes, that is what I'm guestimating. I'll have to start early to peek out of the Gate, but it is still better than about 5 hours out of Redwood City. The next harbor north is Oyster Point, and that would be close to an hour drive... There's also Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay, but ocean sailing is a little out of my reach just yet. As I said, if you know of other options, I'd appreciate them.
I suggest you click over to Activecaptain.com and register (it's free) and use the interactive charts/google maps to inspect the areas around the Bay that you can more easily access from Cupertino. Frankly, from Cupertino, there are few really "convenient" harbors although some are less inconvenient than others and I agree that, initially, you'll want the boat rather closer to home than not. It will also be advantageous to have a sailing area that is relatively less demanding vis-a-vis weather and traffic while you are "learning the ropes" and the boat. The Cal 29 is quite a good safe, fast boat but you'll need time to learn her what-fors. Later on you might move her up to somewhere like the Alameda estuary where there is an abundance of good marinas and reasonable access to the Central Bay. We had our boat there for awhile, at Barnhill Marina--now known as Marina Village--mostly because my (much) better half was addicted to the Oyster Stew that used to be served at the adjoining Rusty Pelican after we finished sailing, and she liked Jack London Square, which was a short hop across the Estuary.

N'any case, good luck with the boat.
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re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Thanks for the advice guys. I completely agree, keeping her within easy reach of home/work would be important, as there're quite a few little things I'd like to work on. Coyote Point seems to be a good compromise in that sense: 30min drive, what seems like a pretty calm sailing area, but still within a one-way daysail to central bay. I'm not planning to go anywhere near the Gate for the foreseeable future, but it'd still be nice to have the option.

With that in mind, I moved the boat there yesterday. Time was a little short and wind very light, so I had to motor-sail once I crossed the Bay bridge unfortunately, but it was a nice trip nevertheless. Made me appreciate a good diesel as it could move the boat at hull speed without straining. Traffic was pretty hectic around there, I passed two container ships and a tug towing a large barge in the span of 45min it took me to cross the bridge.

The entrance to the Coyote Point is pretty tight and I managed to run aground lightly (I was barely moving at around 2 kts), but a gentle reverse got me free. Hopefully, I won't find any damage once she gets a haul out in a few weeks (I got it as part of the survey deal, might as well use it).
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Re: First boat: Cal 2-27, Pearson 28 or Islander 28?

Be careful going in and out of Coyote Pt. Marina. Many a boat has been grounded when they stray out of that channel. Keep an eye on the range markers as you enter AND leave, and stay lined up even well before the first set of marks.
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