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SloopJonB 10-29-2012 01:54 PM

Standfast 36
 
Does anyone have any personal experience, info. etc. on the Standfast 36? It's an early IOR One Tonner, a Franz Maas designed, cambered flush deck boat that was marketed in North America by Palmer Johnson.

I've done the usual searching on the web for info but I'd like to hear from anyone who has personal knowledge of their performance and so forth. They seem to have a fairly small rig for their displacement so I'm particularly interested in their light air performance.

Faster 10-29-2012 02:00 PM

Re: Standfast 36
 
Jon.. we looked at one in Seattle on our last boat hunt. They are a Dutch built boat with a pretty good reputation, often lots of teak on deck and, as you mentioned, the typical IOR form of the era.

Very woody interior (quite dark, actually) and a really miniscule galley took it off our list. It was a pretty boat, but not roomy. We also had concerns about the 'screwed on' teak decks.

We did not get an opportunity to sail it.

PCP 10-29-2012 02:21 PM

Re: Standfast 36
 
As Faster said, it is a Dutch boat and those have one if the best reputations in Europe. Frans Maas is a great designer (a bit conservative to my taste:D) and particularly Standfast has a great reputation and only closed recently (2008):

The yard was located in Breskens on the shores of Zeeland in The Netherlands. Known for producing highest quality sailing yachts and many race winners designed by Frans Maas.

Sailboats built by Standfast Yachts by year on Sailboatdata.com

But the 36 is a pretty old design, too much IOR typed:

STANDFAST 36 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

If you want a Frans Mass old design stick to a nice one like these ones. I bet they will have a better market value, now and in the future nit to mention this will be a boat that would make proud any owner;)

http://www.yachtingcompany.com/en/95...Sabina_37.html



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Regards

Paulo

SloopJonB 10-29-2012 06:40 PM

Re: Standfast 36
 
Thanks guys. The one I have in mind is on the island and no teak deck. It sure would look good with one though with that flush deck. :)

I have always liked the look of those highly cambered flush decks from that era - Heath's varnished 'Morning Clouds', the 'America Janes' and others.

The names - PJ, Maas etc. speak for themselves re: quality.

The boat has a pretty low asking price with a near new diesel as well.

I'm mainly concerned that it might have a "North Sea" sized rig which would be less than ideal around here. I think it was pretty unsuccessful as a racer but the IOR was in such flux then that it may not mean that much - that often simply meant it was too conservative (read seaworthy) - plenty of S&S designs back then weren't very successful racers as well for that reason..

Want2GoSail 03-13-2015 08:07 PM

Re: Standfast 36
 
Sorry for joining this thread more than two years later but I'm looking for my first sailboat and this PJ Standfast 36 keeps crossing my sights. It's on the island and has a near new diesel engine so I'm thinking it's the same one discussed here. I'm taking it, SloopJon, that you didn't make the purchase. Do you have any warnings regarding this vessel or should I head up island to take a look? I've got a couple that I want to look at but as you said the price is very reasonable. I'm looking forward to your reply.

SloopJonB 03-13-2015 10:38 PM

Re: Standfast 36
 
That's the same one. I looked at it again last November. It had been purchased by a couple of the brokers that handled it in Nanaimo and they moved it to Maple Bay. The price was down to $12K or $14K at that point and the day I looked at it one of the owners was replacing the main chains mountings - pulled out a lot of rot.

I later saw the price was back up to $20K so I presume they finished that work.

I'd want a VERY thorough survey and I'd offer a lot less - that boat has been for sale for going on a decade now - since '09 at the very least. That "near new" engine dates back to the turn of the century or before.

One thing I recall from my first look 2 1/2 years ago - the steering quadrant had very poor or no access and there was lots of white powder on the alloy parts - I'd want that checked carefully for condition and future access.

It's a very cool boat but you better be handy and get it for a very good price or it'll break your heart.

Want2GoSail 03-13-2015 10:45 PM

Re: Standfast 36
 
Thanks very much for the reply. I don't have lots of time for repairs and as I suspected the low price is indicative of the money I would probably have to invest into it. I think I will forgo this option.


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