Pros and cons of steel sailboats - Page 104 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1721Likes
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1031  
Old 09-13-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: new england
Posts: 1,703
Thanks: 31
Thanked 30 Times in 27 Posts
Rep Power: 2
outbound is on a distinguished road
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Metal is safer in lightning storms. Electricity will travel only on the outside of the hull. Personally would rather be in Fe/Al in that setting. Looking into lightning ground plate from Ward's Marine Electric given I'm in grp.

Personally prefer to be called by my first name outside professional setting. When called Mr. think they're talking about my father. He passed some years ago so I get confused.
__________________
s/v Hippocampus
Outbound 46
  #1032  
Old 09-13-2013
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,657
Thanks: 1
Thanked 74 Times in 70 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Being a devout classical music fan I like being called "Maestro". It reminds me of all the great musical masters who worked hard to achieve greatness. I admire that. In my case it's usually said, with tongue formly in cheek and that's fine with me. I still like it. It's a compliment and if you can'r discern the difference between that and name calling I can't help you.

My friends call me Bob and Robert. Some of my old friends call me "Hoidard" because on one of my driver's licenses years ago that's how my middle name, Howard, was spelled.
Some of my friends call me Caesar because I am very good at making a Caesar salad from scratch. I don't consider any of these terms of affection "name calling".
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  #1033  
Old 09-13-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 272
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 4
jak3b is on a distinguished road
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

How about Maestro Hoidard Caesar?
  #1034  
Old 09-13-2013
smackdaddy's Avatar
Last Man Standing
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 13,160
Thanks: 85
Thanked 81 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 9
smackdaddy is a jewel in the rough smackdaddy is a jewel in the rough smackdaddy is a jewel in the rough
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Quote:
Originally Posted by outbound View Post
Metal is safer in lightning storms. Electricity will travel only on the outside of the hull. Personally would rather be in Fe/Al in that setting. Looking into lightning ground plate from Ward's Marine Electric given I'm in grp.

Personally prefer to be called by my first name outside professional setting. When called Mr. think they're talking about my father. He passed some years ago so I get confused.
The Faraday Cage phenomenon? Makes sense. But I assume that if any storm gets anywhere close that has any possibility of lightning, you wouldn't want to be on-deck sailing the boat?

That sounds pretty fragile.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

S/V Dawn Treader - 1989 Hunter Legend 40
  #1035  
Old 09-13-2013
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,657
Thanks: 1
Thanked 74 Times in 70 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I knew Faraday Cage and you're no Faraday Cage.

Great name for a high tech rock band.
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  #1036  
Old 09-13-2013
just ducky
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: NH
Posts: 774
Thanks: 4
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Don0190 is on a distinguished road
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

what page does this smack down start as reading it backwards is confusing, but reading 30+ pages doesn't agree with my lifespan
__________________
Don't blow air up my rear, be useful and blow it at the sails!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
  #1037  
Old 09-13-2013
smackdaddy's Avatar
Last Man Standing
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 13,160
Thanks: 85
Thanked 81 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 9
smackdaddy is a jewel in the rough smackdaddy is a jewel in the rough smackdaddy is a jewel in the rough
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don0190 View Post
what page does this smack down start as reading it backwards is confusing, but reading 30+ pages doesn't agree with my lifespan
Sorry bro. Gotta do your homework. However, hold tight for a bit. I'm creating an awesome index of The Best of BS.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

S/V Dawn Treader - 1989 Hunter Legend 40
  #1038  
Old 09-13-2013
chall03's Avatar
No longer on Sailnet
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,513
Thanks: 14
Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 12
chall03 will become famous soon enough
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Brent's whole deal, his 'design philosophy' is that his steel boats are super strong when you hit a reef. That's it.

Thereby if you spend your time on your boat doing anything other than hitting reef's his boats are essentially unsuitable.

I would prefer a sailboat that sails, and to then try very hard to not hit reefs, than a reef-proof boat that doesn't sail.

Smack I believe there is a bit of a story to Brent's first Pacific crossing and hitting that reef, I recall snipets. I do give Brent credit for getting out there so young and living the adventure. That takes balls of steel. I wish he would post more about those adventures on here rather than just spouting Brentboat propaganda.
__________________
* No longer on Sailnet. Reach me by PM.

'Life is either a daring adventure or nothing' - Helen Keller



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by chall03; 09-13-2013 at 04:49 PM.
  #1039  
Old 09-13-2013
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,657
Thanks: 1
Thanked 74 Times in 70 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

"Thereby if you spend your time on your boat doing anything other than hitting reef's his boats are essentially unsuitable."

I'll challenge that just for the fun of it.

Brent's boats are totally suitable if someone wants the security or imagined security of having a steel boat around them. As I said when I first got into this food fight and most others posting on this agree, steel is the "toughest" material. But it's also heavy and has some very serious cosmetic challenges. rent has yet to show us one of his boats that would qualify as a "yacht" by most standards. They are "boats" and for Brent's customers that's all they want. Good enough. I have no problem with that. I design yachts. I have no problem with that either.

Here's my buddy Guy's boat that I designed. It's beautiful and it's very fast. He lives in BC so I suspect it will go flying by Brent one of these days. Guy loves it.
Attached Thumbnails
Pros and cons of steel sailboats-altairx3.jpg   Pros and cons of steel sailboats-altairx4.jpg   Pros and cons of steel sailboats-altairx2.jpg  
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by bobperry; 09-13-2013 at 05:11 PM.
  #1040  
Old 09-13-2013
JomsViking's Avatar
Splashed
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 554
Thanks: 28
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 8
JomsViking is on a distinguished road
Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Lucky Guy
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
"Thereby if you spend your time on your boat doing anything other than hitting reef's his boats are essentially unsuitable."

I'll challenge that just for the fun of it.

Brent's boats are totally suitable if someone wants the security or imagined security of having a steel boat around them. As I said when I first got into this food fight and most others posting on this agree, steel is the "toughest" material. But it's also heavy and has some very serious cosmetic challenges. rent has yet to show us one of his boats that would qualify as a "yacht" by most standards. They are "boats" and for Brent's customers that's all they want. Good enough. I have no problem with that. I design yachts. I have no problem with that either.

Here's my buddy Guy's boat that I designed. It's beautiful and it's very fast. He lives in BC so I suspect it will go flying by Brent one of these days. Guy loves it.
__________________
Watch great footage about the story of one man’s slow odyssey around the UK:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hunter 36 Pros and Cons? turfguy Hunter 15 3 Weeks Ago 05:08 PM
C & C 24 pros and cons chuckg Boat Review and Purchase Forum 11 04-06-2012 12:45 AM
Pros and Cons of Catalina 350?? turfguy C350 6 10-16-2009 05:17 PM
Watermakers—Pros and Cons Tom Wood Cruising Articles 0 06-11-2002 08:00 PM
Steel Hulls—Pros and Cons Sue & Larry Buying a Boat Articles 0 09-12-2001 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:18 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.