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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Metal is safer in lightning storms. Electricity will travel only on the outside of the hull. Personally would rather be in Fe/Al in that setting. Looking into lightning ground plate from Ward's Marine Electric given I'm in grp.

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Metal is safer in lightning storms. Electricity will travel only on the outside of the hull. Personally would rather be in Fe/Al in that setting. Looking into lightning ground plate from Ward's Marine Electric given I'm in grp.

Personally prefer to be called by my first name outside professional setting. When called Mr. think they're talking about my father. He passed some years ago so I get confused.
The Faraday Cage phenomenon? Makes sense. But I assume that if any storm gets anywhere close that has any possibility of lightning, you wouldn't want to be on-deck sailing the boat?

That sounds pretty fragile.


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I knew Faraday Cage and you're no Faraday Cage.

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what page does this smack down start as reading it backwards is confusing, but reading 30+ pages doesn't agree with my lifespan

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what page does this smack down start as reading it backwards is confusing, but reading 30+ pages doesn't agree with my lifespan
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Brent's whole deal, his 'design philosophy' is that his steel boats are super strong when you hit a reef. That's it.

Thereby if you spend your time on your boat doing anything other than hitting reef's his boats are essentially unsuitable.

I would prefer a sailboat that sails, and to then try very hard to not hit reefs, than a reef-proof boat that doesn't sail.

Smack I believe there is a bit of a story to Brent's first Pacific crossing and hitting that reef, I recall snipets. I do give Brent credit for getting out there so young and living the adventure. That takes balls of steel. I wish he would post more about those adventures on here rather than just spouting Brentboat propaganda.

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"Thereby if you spend your time on your boat doing anything other than hitting reef's his boats are essentially unsuitable."

I'll challenge that just for the fun of it.

Brent's boats are totally suitable if someone wants the security or imagined security of having a steel boat around them. As I said when I first got into this food fight and most others posting on this agree, steel is the "toughest" material. But it's also heavy and has some very serious cosmetic challenges. rent has yet to show us one of his boats that would qualify as a "yacht" by most standards. They are "boats" and for Brent's customers that's all they want. Good enough. I have no problem with that. I design yachts. I have no problem with that either.

Here's my buddy Guy's boat that I designed. It's beautiful and it's very fast. He lives in BC so I suspect it will go flying by Brent one of these days. Guy loves it.
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"Thereby if you spend your time on your boat doing anything other than hitting reef's his boats are essentially unsuitable."

I'll challenge that just for the fun of it.

Brent's boats are totally suitable if someone wants the security or imagined security of having a steel boat around them. As I said when I first got into this food fight and most others posting on this agree, steel is the "toughest" material. But it's also heavy and has some very serious cosmetic challenges. rent has yet to show us one of his boats that would qualify as a "yacht" by most standards. They are "boats" and for Brent's customers that's all they want. Good enough. I have no problem with that. I design yachts. I have no problem with that either.

Here's my buddy Guy's boat that I designed. It's beautiful and it's very fast. He lives in BC so I suspect it will go flying by Brent one of these days. Guy loves it.

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