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You mentioned using ss at corners. That was interesting. Please drop the blanket indictment of "plastic". You have knowledge of pros/cons of your material. Speak to that.
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How can you go wrong with that combination!


Here is one of my girls and my dog. There is a choc lab running around in there somewhere too.

This is our old living room, dining room, brewing room etc. Lived there for years. But, I guess we were just trying to keep up with people we didn't like.

The Portuguese Water Dog is really a neat breed. Are they into water as much as the name would suggest?

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Yes. Ruby, our PWD, is out on the beach many times during the day. She is usually wet by 7:30am. I go fishing almost every morning and she aways goes in the water. She chases seals and seagull, herons, pretty much anything. She is pertpetually wet. But she is a lot of fun. Demanding but fun. She does not shed so tomorrow she goes into the groomers. She hates that.

I have a mixed breed dog too. Freda. We found her on the beach, starving 12years ago. She is a German Shepard type mix and a wonderful dog. Quite protective of my wife.

Ruby took to Freda quickly when she was a pup. Freda puts up with Ruby. Ruby is my second PWD. They are the ultimate boat dog.

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Great dogs! Love the pics. Our Shepherd and Lab were raised in the water as both my wife and I have been WW guides in the past. I have pics of Brodie (the white one) asleep in a class 4 rapid at my feet with customers in the boat. They are both up there in years now so even walks are getting tough on them at 12 years. Hardest part of having dogs for sure.

We used to be up by Denali National Park in a town called Cantwell. Still have our cabin there in fact. But, we recently moved north of Anchorage into what folks call "the valley" up here. Palin country as it were. Beautiful place and it has been nice to get a break from the EXTREME cold and be down by the coast.
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Thanks. That's me modelling my new eye glass frames for my buddy who sent them to me. He sells them and he is very picky about what frames I wear. Me? Not so picky.

I'd love to visit Denali. I like to fish. Sounds like you have had an exciting time.

Freda is getting stiff now too. It hurts me when she chooses not to go for a walk. We have had a load of wealks over the years. She has gone to work with me pretty much every day since we found her. Now I work at home so it's easier. You must visit some time.

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Anytime you want to see Denali you have hosts and a place. 100+ fish days on fly or light gear is pretty insane. We have had a great time up here. Alaska has been good to us.

Lots of steel boats up here too as you might imagine. Bring a hammer. (weak gesture at keeping thread on its wobbly course )
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Still have a question for Brent or anyone knowledgeable about steel. When I was taught MIG/TIG welding my teacher told me one of the great features of steel frame/plate construction was the ease of repair given the plate "floats" on the frames. Hence, with either radius or hard chine construction one can cut out portions or whole frames/plates and replace with restoration to original fairness and strength. Given even with radius chine "simple" curves are employed.One can buy or fabricate these curves. Therefore, using tabs with a come along suffice to place new material properly. What I don't understand is how this can be done in frameless construction such as origami given plate is formed to shape in basically the same way as "tortured" wood construction.

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What are you saying here:
"origami given plate is formed to shape in basically the same way as "tortured" wood construction."

What are you calling "tortured wood construction"?

I imagine that in a Bret boat you would have to do some shaping to the plate to make a fair repair. If not you would have another flat spot. That could be similar to repairing a hole in a cold molded or strip planked wooden boat. Is that what you mean by "tortured"?

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Anytime you want to see Denali you have hosts and a place. 100+ fish days on fly or light gear is pretty insane. We have had a great time up here. Alaska has been good to us.

Lots of steel boats up here too as you might imagine. Bring a hammer. (weak gesture at keeping thread on its wobbly course )
One of my all time favourites about Alaska was an interview with a barmaid. She was asked about the reputed 12-1 ratio of men to women there and replied "Yes, the odds are good but the goods are odd".
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