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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I made the additions to the list suggested by Jeff. Thanks Jeff. Wink Warner was right on the tip of my tongue yesterday.

I know I am to blame for this but I think the point of my list may be easily lost. Maybe a better way to approach this is to look at the list and tell me one thing, one thing that all those designers have in common in establishing their deisgn offices.

I'm on the tall side and I work at a drawing board sitting on a stool. I suppose I could sit at a desk but I've been working at a drawing board for 52 years. In order to get my main monitor at the height I need it I have it sitting on THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF YACHT DESIGNERS. A nice, big, thick book. This is an amazing book and took a team of writers to compile. It is extremely comprehensive and covers obscure and famous yacht designers from all over the world. Today it is a very expensive book. I feel honored to be in that book. I was tempted to open the book when I was making my list but it was more fun trying to compile the list from memory. I appreciate additions suggested by Kim and Jeff, both astute students of he field.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

so, Yacht Design works like any other profession...

A great architect does not have to build the buildings himself...
Not all aircraft designers are ex fighter pilots...
A designer at Ferrari's F1 Team is not necessarily an ex race driver...

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In an industry which I am familiar with, commecial trucks, the design engineers know a fair bit about trucks but are not professional truck drivers. They do however solicit input from fleet operators, mechanics, drivers etc in order to take advantage of their experience and design a product that will work in the intended environment and fulfill the needs of the customer. They also verify and validate the designs before they are manufactured and offered to the market.

So my (obvious) conclusion is that you do not have to be a fulltime liveaboard cruiser with welding skills and a couple of RTW's under your belt to be a great yacht designer.

Maybe the opposite applies, that is better to have the relevant theoretical education coupled with on the job training in a design office?

I know how to drive a truck but that does not make me a professional truck driver and , with all due respect, I do not think many truck drivers would make great design engineers, FEA or CFD analysts in our office.

Probably best that both groups stick to what they are good at....
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Thanks Jorgen. I guess it's OK if I keep working now.
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Thanks Jorgen. I guess it's OK if I keep working now.
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You seem to be doing OK ;-)
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Robert Schumann could not play his own piano pieces. His wife Clara could.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I once completely rewired a large pipe organ. But I don't know how to play it.
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"I once completely rewired a large pipe organ. But I don't know how to play it. "

That's a shame. Think of the fun.
You could play some Buxtehude. Buxtehude agreed to teach J.S. Bach but only if Bach would marry his daughter. Buxtehude's daughter was notoriously ugly and Bach passed on the offer.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Robert Schumann could not play his own piano pieces. His wife Clara could.
Now THAT is kind of weird. I've never before heard of a composer who couldn't play.

Looking at your list of designers made me think - that covers well over a century and I think you've listed pretty well all the majors.

Pretty rarefied company you keep. I think the profession fits the term "arcane" quite well. (or vice versa).
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Jeez, with a choice like that,you'd want to play your own tune on your own organ.
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