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Well, I never had a Bavaria 38. My actual boat is faster than anything you are talking about by a huge margin.

The rest seems to me as confused as the confusions about my boat and the data I had posted about it.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I am not "all knowing".
I think I can speak for most of us here: WE ARE NOT ALL KNOWING.
You are being an insulting person again. Is this a habit with you? If not I think you may have a problem with words. You do come off kind of smarmy. Yeah, smarmy is the correct word.

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Yachts and Yachting Magazine ? Expert Sailing Techniques for Dinghies, Keelboats and Cruiser Racers, Bob Fisher's America's Cup Blog - Comet 41s Review

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Excuse me. I never claimed to be an all knowing reputable boat designer.

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I am not saying you are a reputable boat designer. I am saying that Bob, the one that is replying to you, is. He is the one that designed the Valiant.

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You can't possibly have any fun at all in that boat. What about the pounding? What about the reefs? What about the tankers with their frabjious bulbous bows?

You are most certainly living on the edge with that boat.

Looks like my kind of boat.

I wish I were all knowing. I want to know what the Oregon/Washington football score is right now.

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Floyd:
I am not "all knowing".
I think I can speak for most of us here: WE ARE NOT ALL KNOWING.
You are being an insulting person again. Is this a habit with you? If not I think you may have a problem with words. You do come off kind of smarmy. Yeah, smarmy is the correct word.

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That is more conservative looking than what I envisioned you owning. How much standing room is there in the salon?
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Fun and games with the "con" side of the thread today while we fit the tiller to the FRANCIS LEE cockpit. Our hands are tied until we have the tiller head, which I designed, securely in our hands. But the tiller will be a piece of art.

I always wanted to sail a 62' LOA boat with a tiller. I'll get my chance very soon.
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That is more conservative looking than what I envisioned you owning. How much standing room is there in the salon?
Burton, I like many types of boats even if I would not have one that is no fun to sail or slow. Yes I like and do a lot of upwind sailing and that makes me prefer these type of boats instead of boats maximized for downwind sailing. That boat in perfect conditions with a 135% genoa can make 26º off the app wind and at a good speed. You cannot imagine how that boat goes away (beating) from the typical modern cruiser.

The boat has a great interior, I mean very good quality and nice but does not have a decent sea berth (stupid thing I agree). I don't know the standing room but it is much bigger than what it appears (probably 2.0m or more. I am big (1.87m) and I don't have any problem.



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Fun and games with the "con" side of the thread today while we fit the tiller to the FRANCIS LEE cockpit. Our hands are tied until we have the tiller head, which I designed, securely in our hands. But the tiller will be a piece of art.

I always wanted to sail a 62' LOA boat with a tiller. I'll get my chance very soon.
Talking about upwind sailing that one should be a really incredible boat on that particular even if with a considerable heel, out of light winds. But who says heeling is not fun

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