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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

From previous posts the splash is what i was expecting. Waiting impatiently for the pictures. Now I will; have to buy a digital camera to take pictures of our rivers and lakes here in New Mexico. Where is the water?
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Bob. There is no such thing as a boat which has been cruised in and lived aboard for decades being 'Right on its lines" or that exactly where any given owners boat is going to float once he has lived aboard for a while can be predicted. That's as naïve as Skenes suggesting that the weight of a galley pump and is distance from LCB is in any way relevant on a cruising boat ,or suggesting a that a person's total weight of personal effects is around 200lbs. When you talk about calculating such foolishness for "Accuracy" you live in a fantasy world.
Bob, I notice that whenever I get the chance to get online, your response to my post is almost instant, suggesting you have nothing better to do than sit in front of a computer all day. As I am doing much of the time what you are giving advice on but rarely doing, cruising, I often go days without the chance to respond . That is what happened on that other site. There is no way someone who is too busy cruising and living life can respond to everything that a half dozen people without a life beyond the internet with nothing better to do than attack , any and every post someone makes. Politicians have discovered that a lie ,if repeated enough, eventually gets accepted as truth, no matter how obviously false it is. Some are using that tactic on the internet , quickly reducing its usefulness.
I have received a lot of thanks for my posts, in personal emails, by people who know if they make it on a chatline, they will be attacked and possibly threatened . Many of them have ended up buying books and plans from me.
You say you use the chatlines as a type of social life. Given the amount of free time you obviously have, it doesn't look like clients are beating a well worn pathway to your door. No big surprise, given that the market is flooded to overflowing with what you offer.
For easily built small steel sailboats, I don't have much competition, and have been as busy as ever ,thru all the critical debates of my methods, with a spike in interest and orders for books and plans during the boat design debates. Those I have handed my job over to, have had to go into hiding, to get a break from all the work that is being offered to them.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

"Thus a gang of jeering ,very inexperienced luddites "

Really, I thought several of them showed an understanding of yacht design considerably more advanced than what you show. When it came to the technical side of yacht design they ate your lunch. They really made you look silly I'm afraid.

There is no need for this. Just quit attacking everyone who has a different opinion of what makes a good boat. Being honest would help too. People will, leave you the room to enjoy your own steel boats. I sure don't have any problem with that. I applaud you for filling that niche. But your constant defensive mode of attack when someone mentions a good grp boat is tiresome and foolish.

FRANCIS LEE is a marvelous, unusual and unique yacht. It is not for everyone. But if you don't like it you are not WRONG. You just have a different opinion of what makes a good boat for you. That attitude has kept me in business for over 35 years. Bring on the diversity and let me have a whack at all those different designs. I love working along the edges of all the available types.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

"Condolences for the death of your relevance. "

You're getting desperate again Brent.
Hate? What's with it?
How about this Brent? Just post a few pics of your boats and people here can draw their own conclusions. I see no purpose in ad nauseum propogating personal attacks that have nothing to do with boats.

"Condolences for the death of your relevance. "
Really Brent. That is sad and nothing to do with boats.
The come back is so obvious I won't say it.

On a far brighter note:
Blt2ski was there this morning along with a couple Kiwi pals of kim's and mine and the infamnous Aarne the Hammer. The boat is attracting some attention.
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Bob, I notice that whenever I get the chance to get online, your response to my post is almost instant, suggesting you have nothing better to do than sit in front of a computer all day.
I have found this to be a fairly common form of attack on the Net. It has been directed at me on occasion.

Have these people never head of multiple windows or multitasking?
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Politicians have discovered that a lie ,if repeated enough, eventually gets accepted as truth, no matter how obviously false it is. Some are using that tactic on the internet , quickly reducing its usefulness.
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This has to be the funniest most ironic set of words on the entire internet. Brent Swain - you have now reached the end of the tiny bit of credibility you had left.

Congratulations. Now have some ice cream and go cruising.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I had a good time for the 5 or 10 min I was down there this morning. I had not met Bob before. A very quite talker. Not good for those of us that need HA's and do not bring them! any way, Me thinks his pooch and Mr Winston would have a very playful time if they ever meet!

I also can not help but think I have run into Kim before. just need to remember where, with out pulling a brain electron!

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I had a good time for the 5 or 10 min I was down there this morning. I had not met Bob before. A very quite talker. Not good for those of us that need HA's and do not bring them! any way, Me thinks his pooch and Mr Winston would have a very playful time if they ever meet!

I also can not help but think I have run into Kim before. just need to remember where, with out pulling a brain electron!

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No, do not do ham radio. May have been at an after race party.....or a YC event somewhere...........
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No, do not do ham radio. May have been at an after race party.....or a YC event somewhere...........
I pretty much do not do parties much....we are pretty boring people here.

(But lots of bicycle racing in the past.)
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