As for the rest of you I don't read what Brent says as untruthful as much as from a different world.
David, I can kind of see your point. He's definitely from a different world. But there's no world I know of where it's okay to disparage your own customers and even other people's family.
The days are probably a little more that 8 hours.
There was significant preparation before the building started (days or weeks)
It is not going to look like a Catalina when it is done.
Fairing and painting can take as long as I want to play with it.
The chances of me being able to scrounge enough for the rig, interior, propulsion etc is not likely. That hasn't been my world.
So the chances of it working out for me is slim.
This is precisely the point I'm trying to make in this debate with Brent. The chances of success in building/completing/cruising a BS boat for ANY "cruiser wannabe" that doesn't have a great deal of foreknowledge and experience in steelwork and yacht systems (as well as a tremendous amount of time and money) is, as you say, very slim
You sail a good bit. You understand boats. And you understand this reality. Do his potential "cruiser wannabe" customers who simply listen to his promises and read his book?
Brent is so entrenched in "his world" that he thinks it's the only
world. Anyone that's not a part of it is a sucker, a shyster, or a fool. This is the problem. He is completely unable to be objective. And this makes him claim things that are obviously and provably not true.
I don't doubt that Brent has done exactly what he has said such as welding up a steel 36' hull in a couple days.
Actually, I don't doubt it either. But that's the problem - he passes this off as typical in the process
. He can't grasp the fact that having decades of experience doing just this (as well as the proper tools and space necessary) is the key to being able to do it. A cruiser wannabe that listens to his claims thinks this is just how BS boats go together. He shells out the money for the plans, the steel, the tools, the space - then realizes it's not quite what he was promised.
If Brent could be honest about what it really
takes a new, green boatbuilder
to finish one of his boats, I would have some respect for him. Instead, he calls his customers liars, drunks and dope smokers for not doing what he promised them they could do. It's their
fault - not his.
I have no respect for people like that.
Trying to compare what Brent does to what Bob does doesn't make any sense at all. The product is too different. The people drawn to one or the other is too different.
I totally agree with you here. There is absolutely no comparison. Yet, Brent claims that his designs and boats are inherently superior.
That is definitely a different world.