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In what regards steel boats I like some of Ed Rutherford designs. Expensive boats but certainly very strong ones and not that slow, specially the big ones.



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what a beautiful picture. Is that your boat?
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Here's a picture Of scaldis Built 1935 50' on deck around 43 LWL 25 tons displacement lightship around 28 tons departure. Sailing up to her mooring with one adult and and 2 children as they do in all weathers. A very handy boat.

Build is flush riveted steel by De Vries Lentsch. She just had her first cut and patch since 1935 and had around 10 One ft square patches replaced along the bilge concrete ballast line in the wet bilge, a few pinholes had been weeping for a while.
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what a beautiful picture. Is that your boat?
no, mine is much smaller and less expensive. It is a fiberglass boat. This one:



It is also the boat on my avatar.

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no, mine is much smaller and less expensive. It is a fiberglass boat. This one:



It is also the boat on my avatar.

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geez.. she looks like a rocket not a sailboat...geez.. i would kill myself if I owned one of those bouncing off of shoals and container ships... Yahoo!!. But you know, she has beautiful lines. How fast will she go?

Your waterline pix put me in love. I looked at a few on the net and if I was more affluent I would consider one in a heartbeat. There not designed by that Perry guy are they? I saw a nice one for 350,000 but my beer account only has 250,000 in it. Besides, if I spend all my beer money on a boat what do I use for grog?

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geez.. she looks like a rocket not a sailboat...geez.. i would kill myself if I owned one of those bouncing off of shoals and container ships... Yahoo!!. But you know, she has beautiful lines. How fast will she go?

Your waterline pix put me in love. I looked at a few on the net and if I was more affluent I would consider one in a heartbeat. There not designed by that Perry guy are they? I saw a nice one for 350,000 but my beer account only has 250,000 in it. Besides, if I spend all my beer money on a boat what do I use for grog?
Last post about this. I don't like to be off topic: You can find one of those 7 year's old in Italy (where the used sailboats are cheap now due to the bad economic situation) for around 150 000 euros. They still make this model and you can buy a brand new one with the same hull but a faster keel, two wheel setup and a nicer more integrated geenaker pole by about 300 000 euros. No, it is not a Bob Perry design but he has designed boats as fast as this one and even faster (racers).

I don't know how fast she can go. I know that on the first sailing test with a full crew and strong wind they went to 18K. There is one racing (duo crew) right now on the Middle of the sea sail race and at one of the control points they were faster than several 40class racers. My boat is no racer and has a great (and heavy) cruising interior.

I sail solo (with my wife that likes to cook) and I am happy with the boat reaching easily 8K, even with weak winds and go occasionally at 11/12K downwind (without spinnaker).

Well, just to be on topic: You cannot do that with a 41ft steel boat

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" How fast will she go?"

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Sailors don't ask that question.
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Last post about this. I don't like to be off topic:
What is the topic as I keep clicking on the thread based on the title?
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

It's pretty simple really...The Pros and Cons of Steel Sailboats.

One of the primary cons is that most of the examples have been less than pretty. PCP's examples show that this needn't be the case. There are some really beautiful steel yachts out there.

One question now is - can origami steel boats be beautiful? That would be a "pro".
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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It's pretty simple really...The Pros and Cons of Steel Sailboats.

One of the primary cons is that most of the examples have been less than pretty. PCP's examples show that this needn't be the case. There are some really beautiful steel yachts out there.

One question now is - can origami steel boats be beautiful? That would be a "pro".
I'd like to see pics of YMT's origami boats - the little drawings I've seen so far indicate yes but pics would be the clincher.

I suspect the answer is yes.
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I'd like to see pics of YMT's origami boats - the little drawings I've seen so far indicate yes but pics would be the clincher.

I suspect the answer is yes.
There are lots of renderings and pics on his website:

Tanton Yachts

For example, here's an origami steeler that looks pretty damn sweet to me:



It would be awesome if M. Tanton would come around.
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