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..... Then it went up up up up up up, and down...down...down...down, up up up up up up, down...down...down...down..., while staying laid over hard on the starboard side. Each time we went down you could feel your stomach and guts float up into your ribcage.

I got used to it after a bit, but for the first time I could see how people get very seasick.
I was just kidding.That's not a bad description of a movement of an heavy sailboat in big waves. On a fast sailboat you will go a lot less up an down but will bang bang bang a lot more with much sharper movements with much less amplitude. There are guys that prefer the big up and down slow motion movement others that prefer the sharper smaller one. Normally what is called a sea kindly motion is traditionally associated with the first.

Probably I would prefer mid term: Not the very sharp motion of a top very light racer neither the big amplitude of movements of an heavy boat. If for racing I don't care, just give me the fastest one and a crew for sailing it cause I surely can't but I know that I would love the ride

Note that by racer I don't mean a performance cruiser but a racer. Owners of old slower boats tend to call racers to everything that is faster than their boats. I am not talking also of other era racers but about contemporary ones.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Paulo- have to agree with Sky. Once nearly got sick working in and dark, smelling bilge and diesel while trying to find a throughhull leak during a storm. Sails had already blown out so weren't moving that fast.
I love racing multihulls to point I giggle when the rudder(s) start to cavitate and the rig sings. Still the ride is harsh. When folks are scared and have trouble moving about without injury they are more likely to puke. Recent article in one of the national sailing rags here in the States points out the marked benefit of relaxation techniques in decreasing mal de mare.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

"Owners of old slower boats tend to call racers to everything that is faster than their boats."

Pretty funny Paulo.
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"Owners of old slower boats tend to call racers to everything that is faster than their boats."

Pretty funny Paulo.
Funny but true Bob. I have seen refereed several times the interesting boat thread as the thread where I post racing boat. There are boats of all types there and the racing boats are a small minority, I mean regarding boats posted, at least in what market concerns.

We can call a racing boat to anything that sails and is used or can be used in some sail race and that includes pretty much everything that sails including a Westsail 32. After all that boat had already won a major race. It is just a matter of opinion... and boat ratting

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Ethan Allen boating accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

^^^ What happens when you ignore the fact that a change like changing a plastic enclosure to glass above deck does to stability even if it was a powerboat

I use to spend a LOT of time camping on Lake George with the young ones and we had walked past the Ethan Allen many times and always felt uneasy as it listed at the dock
thanks for the posting. That boat was an accident waiting to happen. I can visualize that boat and I will never get on a cruise ship because they appear ro me to also be accidents waiting to happen
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Here is a steel sailboat we saw in Seward (say that five times fast) and I had to take a picture. It reminded me of the conversations on here regarding the security of steel.

First one of the boat, pretty interesting looking to my eye. I liked the flush decks and nice clean looks myself.


And check out this hatch!!!!


I don't think anyone is coming in without permission.

I wonder if this is one of Brent's. It looks owner finished but at a pretty nice level.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

That is a hell of a "door". It is an ugly thing on a nice boat. certainly that could have been made nicer.
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.....I wonder if this is one of Brent's....
It has that look.. could be.
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Is that a boat or a pressure cooker?
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It has that look.. could be.
I am thinking yes even more after looking at the pic again. Those steel "lifelines" look to be about 30+'' tall and fit his description.

Paulo, I agree that that door, although humorous, is an really odd finish to an otherwise neat looking boat. I mean, how much would such a hatch/door weigh?
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