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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

In a (probably vain) attempt to get this thread on topic... here's a nicely done Colvin ketch.. In '86 I sailed to California on a schooner rigged version of this hull. Not a great trip, but not the boat's fault necessarily....

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I like some Koopman's designs. This one is not bad for a boat from the early 80's. The draft is 1.95m so probably it is a fin keel boat, but the weight seems impossibly low for a 37ft steel boat : 7T.













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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I have schooneritus, but that ketch is beautiful. Colvin a name to research TY.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I like some Koopman's designs. This one is not bad for a boat from the early 80's. The draft is 1.95m so probably it is a fin keel boat, but the weight seems impossibly low for a 37ft steel boat : 7T.













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Maybe - if it hasn't been ballasted yet.

Anyway, it's freakin' gorgeous.
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Maybe - if it hasn't been ballasted yet.

Anyway, it's freakin' gorgeous.
+1. That's a helluva boat.
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+1. That's a helluva boat.
For a steel boat, that's a hellava lot of wood... just sayin'
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Have met a number of Koopman boats when sailing. Agree that they are nice, like the looks. But fast they are not, probably not even designed to be.

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This is exactly where I think Brent's notions of seamanship are misinformed. He seems to assume that you simply walk to the bow in rough conditions standing fully upright and designs his super tall stanchions to this notion. Well, maybe you'll do that once - and if you're still onboard afterward, you'll wish you had the same stanchion design the rest of the world has. ISAF ain't stupid.
The thing is that Brent is not misinformed, while on boat design he is outmatched here, when it comes to cruising cred he has some runs on the board.

This is a conversation I would like to be able to have with him. Perhaps he does walk upright to the bow in rough conditions?? I don't know. Rather than just veiled insults about 'plastic salesmen's lifelines' though I would love to have a sensical conversation about what he finds works for him and why.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Koopman's Design. The toe rail seems to indicate that the boat might be aluminum built and not steel.
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Koopman's Design. The toe rail seems to indicate that the boat might be aluminum built and not steel.
If the toe rail is bolted on top of the teak deck, wouldn't that sufficiently isolate it from the steel hull (assuming the bolts themselves are electrically isolated)?
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