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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Yes, I love to cook. I'm just a household cook but I do my best and I enjoy feeding people. I do know how a galley works. Thanks for noticing.

We need to get BS back here. He does contribute and it does none of us any good to have him banned. But he must learn to act like a man and answer questions in a professional manner. If he wants to be a petulant child than we have little choice but we do have a choice.

It would be nice if we could debate these issues honestly, with integrity and objectivity.
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Yes, I love to cook. I'm just a household cook but I do my best and I enjoy feeding people. I do know how a galley works. Thanks for noticing.

We need to get BS back here. He does contribute and it does none of us any good to have him banned. But he must learn to act like a man and answer questions in a professional manner. If he wants to be a petulant child than we have little choice but we do have a choice.

It would be nice if we could debate these issues honestly, with integrity and objectivity.
I'll try to do my part better in the future.
^^^^^This.

I honestly hate to see him crapping all over his legacy. He's done something interesting. He just needs to be honest about it and stop playing the Martyr of Oz.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

The Martyr of Oz, That has a ring to it Smack.Yves Marie Tanton has done some origami designs. His Imagiro series.It would be interesting to get his take on it.
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Pretty certain I would not put BS in the same league as Yves-Marie.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Pretty certain I would not put BS in the same league as Yves-Marie.
Definately not.Just because I have been on a plane doesnt make me an aeronautical engineer.:-).From looking in his catalog,YMT has done alot of work with the method .I am sure he would have a very realistic understanding of its benefits and limitations.
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Yves-Marie knows yacht design inside and out. He has the eye and he comprehends the numbers. I would not be the designer I am today without the year I spent working with Yves-Marie. He taught me precision in hand drafting.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

He has an incredible range of ideas going on just what Ive seen in his website.Definately an outside of the box thinker.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I am interested in something. Honestly.

Are there people out there reading this thread who are interested in building a steel boat? If so, what do you think about all this?
I have plans for a Radford 40footer I got hold of a couple of years ago. I was comtemplating building in steel at the time but I am a better cruiser/sailor than a boat builder and so just bought a plastic boat and went sailing, with a strong preference for NOT hitting anything solid and testing the strength of my hull.

I think there are a lot of ugly steel boats, especially over my side of the world with some notable exceptions, there is however no doubting the benefits of the material.

I think if I insulted Bob Perry's wife I would probably want to be surrounded by steel.

I think I I had a big wallet, an Aluminum Ovni would be on my shopping list, as would a Van de Stadt Samoa/Tasman in steel albeit happily alongside Plastic Hallberg Rassys and Amels.

I think if you have a mindset that says you need to have a steel boat in case you hit a reef, you should perhaps focus on enrolling in some navigation/seamanship classes.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I like the idea that there are lots of choices available.I am mostly familier with wood as a working medium.I like it, like how it feels,how it smells.Its forgiving but I am not married to any one material.Id like to learn welding for the exercize of learning.It would be fun to learn something new.Maybe I could do some conceptual art with it.Chall I completely agree with you about Navigation.Hull material wont save you from bad navigation.

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