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Heres an article by YMT about his Steelstar design.She is like a steel Ragtime.He makes some interesting points.
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Very well put Jeff.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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That's an interesting ands handsome YMT design. But here are the questions I ask myself when I study that design:

Of the boats YMT lists as inspirations, i.e. long, light, narrow boats, how many are steel?
What do the boats he list all have in common? Light weight hull construction, even RAGTIME.

What is the one thing you need to make a long, narrow, lght boat go to weather? Stiffness from a low VCG. This is hard to do with a steel boat. Every extra ounce in the shell is an ounce out of the ballast. This is excatly the reason that long, light, narrow boats are usually built with lightweight shells.

There most probably are several very good reasons you do not see long, light, narrow boats built from steel.

But I could be wrong. You make a list of your own existing examples to prove me wrong.

Not sure YMT's design was ever built. I've never seen one. Does anyone know?

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Bob-that's a pretty boat.in some ways reminds me of the pre glass trinella boats.yours is prettier of course. Still think the k& m 50 in aluminum is a sweet boat.hear they now make it in glass and it took boat of the year in Europe. Still, if I could have one would do it aluminum and head for the Bergie bits. Problem is would come home alone as admiral don't like taut nipples from the cold.grin

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jak:
That's an interesting ands handsome YMT design. But here are the questions I ask myself when I study that design:

Of the boats YMT lists as inspirations, i.e. long, light, narrow boats, how many are steel?
What do the boats he list all have in common? Light weight hull construction, even RAGTIME.

What is the one thing you need to make a long, narrow, lght boat go to weather? Stiffness from a low VCG. This is hard to do with a steel boat. Every extra ounce in the shell is an ounce out of the ballast. This is excatly the reason that long, light, narrow boats are usually built with lightweight shells.

There most probably are several very good reasons you do not see long, light, narrow boats built from steel.

But I could be wrong. You make a list of your own existing examples to prove me wrong.

Not sure YMT's design was ever built. I've never seen one. Does anyone know?
My thought exactly Bob. As I read the article I couldnt think of any steel sleds.I did read somewhere recently that he has a Steelstar 50 that is being built of Alu.If I can find it Ill post it.Ragtime was here a few years back I think for ther Pacific cup.Very interesting boat she had a carbon spar that had some problems they were working out.
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So your wife has taught nipples and my wife, ex professional free style skier is fat.
We need to elevate this conversation. A least leave my wife out of it.

Have any pics of your wife in the cold?
Probably should take that to CA.
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Well Bob, I'd say it's time to celebrate!

Bring out the nipples!

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