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Now it is my turn ? are you asking about my post and etap / Delher or about Slocum and such in the post just above.
From the little I know about J. Slocum he had some great adventure but also some dark times if you read carefully between the lines. I am not sure how one should look at that post.
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Etap I think was purchased by Dehler You might find this if you google it. They may just have bought the rights so they can gain some type of patent with out any intention of building the boats Hope this is good info for you Paulo
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Hi Lou,

You are right, Etap was bought by Dehler back in 2009 and then Dehler bankrupted and was bought by Hanse. I doubt Etap was part of the package and belongs to Hanse. I do not see Hanse allowing the kind of nonsense that goes on ETAP site about doomsday:

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Anyone with internet must have accessed: "How to survive 2012", based on the theory from Patrick Geryl, where he predicts how to survive the cataclysm of 2012. ....

How to survive 2012 ?
Special attention will be given to surviving the tidal wave with the help of unsinkable boats.
If we are able to convince some of the present and future owners to co-operate, thousands of people will certainly survive. Count for yourself: 6,000 boats in total were built in 2002. In 2012 there will be about 10,000. If we are allowed to use a quarter of them, i.e. 2,500, with an average of 4 persons aboard, then about 10,000 people would be able to escape from the tidal wave. That is more than enough to start a new civilization.

Much will depend on the co-operation of ETAP in order to get the addresses of the boat owners. Furthermore, boat owners will have to be convinced to participate. Most of them will possibly make an effort to survive and will be in their boats on the ocean on that particular date. In case they are not interested, we could possibly borrow their boats. I am counting on some captains who will motivate their colleagues to be a part of this plan. Without any doubt, this is the most likely way to survive.

visit the website on : How to survive 2012


How to survive 2012 ? | Etap Yachting

So, if you want to survive buy an Etap Doomsday was not on 2012, maybe in 2013 or 2014?

I believe the name belongs now to M.I.C. industries and strangely his manager Toni De Pape , "sees nothing unusual about featuring all ETAP endorsements on its website, even if they happen to be from survivalists. He says it was not MIC’s intention to make Geryl the new unofficial spokesperson for ETAP, but concedes that 'whatever helps our brand is OK with us.' " (2012 statements).

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

When I look at their product claims and their logo...



...I can't help but think it came out of this committee meeting...

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No, my "huh?" comment was directed at Jak. I was having a bit of a time deciphering exactly what he was trying to say in his last post. Maybe it was an artifact of a long day oif celebrating Thanksgiving on his part. Or maybe my inability to understand it was a reflection of my own fatiugue. Fact is I did all the cooking yesterday so I could not drink a drop. I cook with precision.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Figures a boat that has a concept I would value hard to sink put under by bad management and crazy folks ! How ironic ? The goose looks like it is doing some dirty work behind.
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When I look at their product claims and their logo...



...I can't help but think it came out of this committee meeting...

Yes that's sad to see what has become of a brand that once made some of the best sailboats in the market (they were better than the Hunters Smack).











Their only big defect was not being made of steel.

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Very nice interior finish.
Interesting galley sink orientation. I'll have to think about that.

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The Etap 46Ds, the one with the original galley, was European boat of the year in 2006 in the category of special award for innovation.

The 48DS also had a great interior taking apart those plastics imitating aluminium (You have to click on the square to see the full image). It was their last big boat.

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No, my "huh?" comment was directed at Jak. I was having a bit of a time deciphering exactly what he was trying to say in his last post. Maybe it was an artifact of a long day oif celebrating Thanksgiving on his part. Or maybe my inability to understand it was a reflection of my own fatiugue. Fact is I did all the cooking yesterday so I could not drink a drop. I cook with precision.
Yup, Sorry about that.I was volunteering at a Thanksgiving feed for about 150 people, Not sure what I was trying to say either.But I like the idea of the alternate Lynn and Larry pardey story.'Larry P. builds a BS 36 out of scrap metal on the beach.....
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I was volunteering at a Thanksgiving feed for about 150 people....
Code for: "I was hammering scotch like a mofo!"


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