Originally Posted by bobperry
Here is another example of why I can't use an artist to get the tolerances I need in designing harmonious shapes.
I think what we see here is a fundamental difference in my approach to "design" as opposed to Brent's approach. I'm certainly NOT saying one is right and one is wrong. I'm just suggesting you let your own eyes be the judge. If I am not quite sure I have a stern shaped the way I want it the accurate 3D model can put my mind at ease. This is our Swedish project in it's early stages.
Nice shape; for fibreglass! Nasty shape , for steel ! Trying to get that radius on the cabin top- cabinside in steel would be a huge waste of time. I know one guy who tried it, and he got a lot of distortion. Most of the classics have no such huge radius there, and look just fine.
Hollow cockpit coamings are easy in GRP, but a huge mistake in steel. I know one guy who tired it on a Simpson design. Inaccessible corrosion inside. He cut them off, and replaced them with something simpler, and with full access for maintenance.
Nice a canoe stern; for fibreglass. A huge waste of time and money in steel . I know a guy who built a Brewer designed steel boat with that shape. Took him 2 years to build just the hull. $8K to have the stern plates rolled. It took several 45 gallon drums of filler to make it fair. This is what you get when you employ a designer who works mainly in GRP but who has no hands on experience in steel. What your computer can draw a pretty picture of, and what goes together easily in steel, without a huge infusion of time , money and filler, are radically different things. Only hands on experience in working with steel can give you an understanding of what works and what is a huge and very expensive waste of cruising time. Don't make the mistake of believing anyone's expertise or track record with fibreglass qualifies him equally to design in steel, or even comment on something he knows so little about.
Not everyone can afford to pay someone with the equipment $150 an hour. An artist can do it for far less.
When looking at an ugly boat one can learn a lot by nit just saying "Man that's ugly", but by asking "What makes it so ugly?" Sometimes just changing the shape of ports, or a line, etc., can make a huge difference. When you do that, you learn some basic rules about aesthetics, which can be applied elsewhere.