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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

So Brent, are you agreeing with me that back pressure is not a problem with small diesels?
I am working my way through this. But I think there is a back pressure myth.

I hope to hell that we are not going to agree on something. I couldn't handle that.

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"I am still waiting until he mounts a set of raised white letter Polyglas's and patches out for the first time. "

Me too Jeff.

When I was a kid I had a '48 Chev coupe. My mother bought it from her friend for $20 and gave it to me. The friend was moving and had to get rid of the car. I loved that car. Straight 6 and and engine where you could actually tell what the pieces were.

I went to show it to my friend in the next town. When I left I wanted to show off. So I backed out of his driveway, paused then floored it. Unfortnately I was still in reverse. I flew backwards up into his neighbor's yard ending up smack in the middle of his lawn after bending over several lawn sprinkler heads. It became a lesson in plumbing for me.
That is what is known nowadays as "Pedal misapplication" or "Sudden unintended acceleration" and it's the cars fault.

We used to simply call it f*#king up.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Back in the days of the rumrunners they had a "smugglers exhaust". The exhaust line went through a two-way valve and could be routed to the atmosphere or underwater. They would start the unmuffled engine to the atmosphere and then switch to underwater - no sound but the bubbles.

A wet exhaust is already pushing water out - the pressure of the water 6" or 1' down won't make any difference.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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There's nothing unique about Brent's attitude. It's the age old disdain of the tradesman for the architect or engineer who doesn't build their designs with their own hands.

Carpenters sometimes design the houses that they build - they look much like Brent's boats - all function, little or no style.

For the most part I prefer designers who design and builders who build.

Nurse shoes are eminently practical, sturdy and treat the feet well but I much prefer women in stilettos.
This is why you need a team and respect of each other. Maybe you get her in a pair of boots that look oh so hot or lets dig this hole deeper and put her barefoot in the kitchen
Some of the best welders I have worked are ladies and also some nice female engineers. Team, respect that's how you get form and function .
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Fish and lobster boats around here work all winter. They have keel coolers and dry stack exhausts. You can hear them miles off. Fisherman go deaf it's so LOUD .? Why do they run dry stacks? Don't understand .
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

A lot less engine maintenance with a dry stack. It's a rare workboat that has a wet exhaust with its issues. Louder though, especially on the smaller boats.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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"I am still waiting until he mounts a set of raised white letter Polyglas's and patches out for the first time. "

Me too Jeff.

When I was a kid I had a '48 Chev coupe. My mother bought it from her friend for $20 and gave it to me. The friend was moving and had to get rid of the car. I loved that car. Straight 6 and and engine where you could actually tell what the pieces were.

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That is a very funny story.
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Yeah Jeff, it was humiliating, I had to come nback the next day to fix the damage done. Actually, my friend's Dad did all the work while I sat there and watched. So I got a second dose of humiliation.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

We all have those humiliating stories from our man-child days. They become great grist for bar side conversations assuming we all survive them. My first car was a used Triumph. It came with an 'over ride bar' on the front bumper which was supposed to prevent American cars with their higher bumpers from backing into the sheet metal on the hood. I had other friends with a mix of odd old sports cars and we would sometime go places as a group. One of these friends usually drove his dad's bugeye Sprite or his own Morris Minor, a car as odd as it's name.

Chris always gave me grief about the fact that I would look up and down railroad tracks as I was crossing them rather than straight ahead towards where I was driving. On one of these trips we came to a grade crossing in a large switch yard that was probably 7-8 rows of tracks wide. And as it happened Chris was in his father's sprite ahead of me. He decided to get a rise out of me and so when he saw me looking up the tracks, he stepped on his brakes.

I turned back just in time to see his brake lights and hit my brakes but it was too late and I hit him. My car's over ride bar was just the right height that it jumped over the top of the bumperettes on his car and so the two cars were now hooked together and stopped right there on the tracks. We got out and try as we could we could we could not disconnect them. About that time some one noticed a train coming way off in the distance.

We decided that we needed to get the cars off the track and then disconnect them.it was agreed that my date, Pam Angel (that really was her name and appearance) would stand by the cars and count to three and we would drive off the tracks together. Like a scene out of 'Rebel Without a Cause' Pam counted to 3and dropped her turquoise silk scarf and both cars started to roll. Unfortunately Chris pulled forward and I rolled back. He figured we were driving forward when this happened and I figured we were barely on the tracks and it was closer to back up.

The net result was that one of the trapped bumperettes was pulled clear off his car, falling on the tracks with a ring sounding somewhat like a cross between a trashcan lid on concrete and a distant churchbell heard through cold morning air that I can still recall precisely even as I sit here writing this today. Dumbfounded, we stood and stared at the bumperette lying on the ground, before we remembered the train and got Chris's car and the Bumperette off the tracks.

We went back to Chris's house to try to repair the damage and remount the bumperette. Guy, Chris's 10 year old brother agreed to crawl back behind the gas tank with a dolly while we with a heavy hammer pounded flat the damaged sheet metal where the mounting bolts had pulled through the metal. We got it all back together again in a manner that you could not tell anything had happened. I have always felt guilty about the sheer amount of noise that poor Guy had to endure in the closed boot of that car.

The poignant thing about this story is that just this week I received an email that Guy had died this week after a long illness at age 56.

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