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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Maybe my reservation is Portofino. I've been there. It's very nice. The food is great. Beats Oklahoma.
I love the place but it is practically impossible to be there with a boat unless you are a millionaire. The last time I have been there I saw quite a funny scenario: at 8.30 AM the movement was big around the several huge motor yachts, with the butlers in full uniform pressing beautiful waitresses (full dressed, most of then with mini skirts) around to get everything ready for breakfast. They were shopping around on the small waterfront and dressing the tables on the boats.

Surrealistic thing because there was almost nobody on the waterfront, except the waitresses, and lots of them.



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I stayed at the Hotel Splendido up on the hill. It was quite nice. I don't think the 26' PERRYWINKLE would fit in there.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I just popped in to say "Hi" to you all, Bob, Smack, JonB, even ol BS, I read some of the posts every day on my phone, but I just have not had time to really get on and get into the discussions like in the past.... work, it really is a four letter word haha.

Good to see everyone is well, and I wish you all a very good New Year, may your 2014 be blessed and profitable in all that you aspire to do... well all that is good.

I notice the BS discussions on the impenetrable hulls of his boats.....and still get a laugh out of them, keep on trying Brent, eventually you will even convince yourself that what you are saying is true LOL.

Bob, the Frankie looks great, another beautiful Bob Perry design.

I am down in Laredo, the weather is great, so that means probably very soon I will be in Maine or somewhere LOL.

Keep up the interesting discussions, I really enjoy reading it all.

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Hey Mark:
Enjoy some Mexican food for me.

Thanks for the kind words on FRANKIE. It's coming together. I'll go down and see it on Thursday on my way to the symphony. I'll be the guy walking around the boat way overdressed.

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Presumably dressed like a Maestro?

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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I just popped in to say "Hi" to you all, Bob, Smack, JonB, even ol BS, I read some of the posts every day on my phone, but I just have not had time to really get on and get into the discussions like in the past.... work, it really is a four letter word haha.

Good to see everyone is well, and I wish you all a very good New Year, may your 2014 be blessed and profitable in all that you aspire to do... well all that is good.

I notice the BS discussions on the impenetrable hulls of his boats.....and still get a laugh out of them, keep on trying Brent, eventually you will even convince yourself that what you are saying is true LOL.

Bob, the Frankie looks great, another beautiful Bob Perry design.

I am down in Laredo, the weather is great, so that means probably very soon I will be in Maine or somewhere LOL.

Keep up the interesting discussions, I really enjoy reading it all.

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No one said they were impenetrable, just a lot harder to penetrate than most ( like the skull of a Texan).
You say wood and plastic are tougher than 3/16th steel?
Ya sure!

It's been a fantastic year here, a warm sunny April , a warm dry summer,and a warm, sunny, record dry fall, and only a week or two of cold, otherwise warm and dryer than normal since. All that arctic air missed us, stayed east of the Rockies, and skeddadled on down to Texas.

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Nah - judging by Brent's statements about what he is owed by the government (due to his "rich aboriginal heritage"), it seems to be more about doing whatever you can to shake down whatever target you can for some juice so you don't have to work. And splitting your complaints across multiple governments by claiming multiple heritages is simply "diversifying your juice portfolio".

Since I'm as "aboriginal" as Brent, I'm looking into it. It might be a nice retirement plan.
In the South ( Smack's neck of the woods) they are known around the world for a tradition of narrowing the gene pool as much as possible, to produce a SUPERIOR RACE, so much so that I hear in some Southern states they are considering changing the divorce laws, so when a couple divorce, they can still be brother and sister.
So tell us Smack, how many times has your gene pool been thus narrowed?
That could explain a lot.

In the Manitoba act, making Manitoba a province , my great great grandfather received recognition of his Metis River lot 50 in Headingly, west of Winnipeg, as part of the Manitoba act . The Selkirk settlers had 31 total crop failures in the first 50 years. It was grampa Tom and his friends' buffalo hunting ,bringing in 60 tons of pemmican which kept them alive. While he was out hunting ,they put a white Selkirk settler on his land. When he got back, they told him he was not a reliable settler , and should have been farming instead of hunting, so they gave his land away. That land ,now extremely valuable urban land, would still be in the family, had it not been stolen from him, for the crime of doing what it took to keep people alive.
Governments today are just as dense and myopic.

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Glad you like the soap Brent.
Still must frost you that your buddy bought the Passport.
Having your approval doesn't mean much to me. I've seen your work. I'd rather disagree with by buddy Smacker. I am not joining that club.

But now, enough talk, time for some beautiful boat reality:


The rig went in Frankie today. We solved the lifeline height question by not having any. None. Now we measure for the sails. Won't be too long till we are smoking down the Sound.

I'm a bit confused by BS's preoccupation with his ancestry. I don't care where a person comes from. I only care about what kind of person they are. If my cousin Dennis was middleweight amateur boxing champ of Sydney back in the day it sure doesn't make me a boxer.

My Grandpa was Angelo Dante Giuseppe Nanelli (Calabrese testa dura). So by BS standards I am far more Italian than he is either Norwegian or Indian. But I sure as hell don't consider myself an Italian. (I could be related to Pavarotti!) I still can't sing worth a damn. While it would be romantic to think of myself as Roberto Perri, I'm just plain Bob, a mixed breed mutt, and I'll let my work describe who and what I am and be very content with that.
No lifelines is insanity. I have lost 5 friends due to lack of lifelines on their boats.
So you are a mixed breed mutt, just like me . The wider the gene pool the better . Welcome to the superior race!
We have other things in common, like an appreciation for Randy Bachman and his Saturday night CBC radio show, Vinyltap, the best rock show ever, funded entirely by Canadian taxpayers on publicly owned CBC.
We both share an appreciation of this fine example of socialism at it's best.

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In the Manitoba act, making Manitoba a province , my great great grandfather received recognition of his Metis River lot 50 in Headingly, west of Winnipeg, as part of the Manitoba act . The Selkirk settlers had 31 total crop failures in the first 50 years. It was grampa Tom and his friends' buffalo hunting ,bringing in 60 tons of pemmican which kept them alive. While he was out hunting ,they put a white Selkirk settler on his land. When he got back, they told him he was not a reliable settler , and should have been farming instead of hunting, so they gave his land away. That land ,now extremely valuable urban land, would still be in the family, had it not been stolen from him, for the crime of doing what it took to keep people alive.
Governments today are just as dense and myopic.
That is a legitimate grievance and claim. What is NOT legitimate is the attitude that anyone with more than a few drops of aboriginal blood is entitled to a free ride from society - no taxes, full use of everything that taxes pay for, little or no accountability for criminal behaviour, free reign to hunt & fish at will and all the other "entitlement" crap that is so ingrained in aboriginal culture.

In Chretiens autobiography he described how when he was Minister of Indian Affairs & Northern Development he met with the union of chiefs (whatever they were called at the time) and offered to settle ALL their claims and shut down the department of Indian affairs. He had the clout to have done it too.

They said no.

Much better for them to keep things as they were so they could keep squeezing more juice, just like Quebec.

Other than the LEGITIMATE grievances like your families, it all falls under the heading of "That was then and this is now".

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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