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No, not so Classic.
Engine was in and we had good numbers for other weights of missing gear. Kim and I were not making this up as we went along. We had been tracking weights for two years.
Wow!! That's certainly the precision way to go..

Nobody worried about weight too much on the only builds I've been involved in - but then having to shift an engine a few inches one way or the other to get the boat onto her lines wasn't fun either.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Not much more to put in her, remember she is just a daysailor/weekender.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I always worry about weight. But we had some very good engineering help on this project and Kim was adamant about weighing everything that went into the boat. He's a CPA, I think he likes spread sheets.
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Not much more to put in her, remember she is just a daysailor/weekender.
Let's see: I'm guessing you'll have beer.. a few passengers (live ballast) along for the ride.. several bags of ice.. more beer..

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Bob is being modest, he is a wiz at weight studies. We weighed almost everything that went into the boat and Bob's original study was just about spot on. She is currently about a quarter degree down by the bow which will be perfect when we have crew in the cockpit and fuel in the fuel tank under the cockpit.
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"A quarter of a degree down in ther bow."
No, no, no!

It's .226 of a degree.
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sorry; .226 of a degree.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Recognize this?

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I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

So - at this point in time if you wanted new construction in Fe and done in the US/Canada where would you go? Both to design and build the vessel. Assume 40-50' budget 1/2-1m. Request for proposal would be for fully found vessel truly ready to launch and sail.
Has the market spoken? and other than Waterline and possibly Kanter there are no other viable choices?

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Boy, I can't think of anyone. Maybe there is a fish boat builder somewhere but most of them work in alu now. If you want yacht quality work I think you are stumped. But if you end up in Holland could you please send me some Amphora pipe tobacco? Brown label.

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