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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Your dreaming, the bottom end of the scale income earners are not even going on boats at all unless its a ferry boat*to get to work.They are paying all there income and money they dont have just to cover the basics.There is nothing left over.To have disposable income you would have to be in the middle to upper income range.Granted I live in one of the most expensive places in the US.It would cost $50-60k a year here for basics and very little in the way of entertainment.This trend is happening in alot of urban areas all over the US.I dont have a wife or kids,I could pull it off if I totaly scrimped and scraped but I am not interested anymore.Id rather live now.I can get an existing,well built good boat for a fraction of the cost.Ive been offered 2 free boats in the last year.A cheoy Lee and a pacific 30,For far less then my own labor sweat equity cost to fix these boats up I could get a nice boat that I could sail today.If was 25, I might build my own but I am 51,time is shorter, Priorities change.
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So you're 51 years old. You are a kid!
HTFU!

I'm 67. My time is even shorter.
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jak:
So you're 51 years old. You are a kid!
HTFU!

I'm 67. My time is even shorter.
So little time, so much music to listen to. Just got my replacement copy,vinyl, of the new Jackson Browne album today, TIME THE CONQUEROR. First one was a bit rough so they replaced it.
Ha!, Thanks Bob.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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The green, first time boatbuilder will get sailing a lot faster using my methods, than he ever will using any other methods, for a fraction the cost. That has been well proven, time and time again.
I have never built a boat for anyone in the top 1% of income earners, but have built most for people in the bottom end of the income scale, people who could never have afforded a good steel boat any other way.
So basically you take a much, much higher percentage of your clients' total hard-earned life savings than Bob Perry ever has from ANY of his clients?

How could you possibly screw the poor like that, Brent Swain? You should be ashamed.


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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

if jak is 51, I am 51, together we are 102.....so we have out done BP together......does that count?

oh, and Bob only has three yrs untill he is an old pfart! 13 until a REALLY old phart, and 23 until the "depends" yrs, ie does he need them or not!

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All seriousness aside,There was more surf pounding and reef smashing in Brents post today.His boats might be an enviromental hazard like dynamite fishing.
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Hey come on Smacks!
I'm trying to take more. I want to take more. I have needs. But my clients are very smart guys and while often very generous they are not stupid.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Nobody has ears that good.

Especially anybody who could afford one of those things.

When I was younger I could hear dog whistles (true - they sound like rushing wind) and I never heard anything that my Stanton 681 EEE could not reproduce - for about $300 in old money (1970's).

Of course now that I can't hear as high as the high filter on my old Marantz, it's all moot.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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My ears are damaged from playing in very loud bands in my youth.Crash cymbals next to my right ear.Then I took a trip on the Mekong river in Laos.Sitting next to a Toyota 4 cylinder engine with no muffeler, just a tin horn attached to the manifold, going full bore for almost 10 hours.That hurt.Then years of routers and power tools didnt help. I have tinitus pretty bad in my right ear.
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