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I have used alternators which I got for free out of scrap piles.
OK, enough is enough. I have read every freaking post on this thread since inception and have laughed at the banter and groaned at the sometime childish slander of other members, but "scrap piles" really. This thread started out about pros and cons of steel boats and now has turned into the maritime version of American Pickers. I mean I have read about park benches, recycled cabinets, steel and wood scrounged from construction sites and now scrap piles, give me a break. Do the world a favor, go off on an extended cruise with no wifi or means to communicate and give verbal dissertations to the locals on how they too can circumnavigate if they just visit the local refuse center and stock pile another mans unwanted items. But short of that, leave the I can build a boat out of your unwanted crap off this thread, because personally if i wanted to sail a garbage scow I'd just put pontoons on a dumpster and call a circus company and ask them for their trashed out tents and make sails out of them.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Holy cow CatMan, you are making me sound really civil.
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I have used alternators which I got for free out of scrap piles.
OK, enough is enough. I have read every freaking post on this thread since inception and have laughed at the banter and groaned at the sometime childish slander of other members, but "scrap piles" really. This thread started out about pros and cons of steel boats and now has turned into the maritime version of American Pickers. I mean I have read about park benches, recycled cabinets, steel and wood scrounged from construction sites and now scrap piles, give me a break. Do the world a favor, go off on an extended cruise with no wifi or means to communicate and give verbal dissertations to the locals on how they too can circumnavigate if they just visit the local refuse center and stock pile another mans unwanted items. But short of that, leave the I can build a boat out of your unwanted crap off this thread, because personally if i wanted to sail a garbage scow I'd just put pontoons on a dumpster and call a circus company and ask them for their trashed out tents and make sails out of them.
You don't seem to understand, Brent is a Dumpster Diving God... He builds furling units that are far superior to anything made by Selden or Profurl, out of stuff he finds laying by the side of the road during the course of a morning walk... :-)

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

G33.....hmmmmmm..........now if I was not packing to move or some such thing.......hmmmmmmmmmm......
maybe I need to go sailing in my slooooooooooooooooooooooow 195 rated boat........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I was at csr twice today, not sure where frances lee is at today..........

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Marty:
Time for all the BS talk to end. FL sails tomorrow. It is on G dock at Shilshole.
Tomorrow=reality.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Lots of room on the ocean for different talents, techniques and imaginative skills. This thread pretty well runs the gamut even if it wanders greatly. If one has the money ,one can buy most any talent etc. If the budget or inclination requires some ingenuity then some imagination in the recycle /reconfigure department can be the ticket.Some of us(me included) take real joy in building our boats and its parts from what some scorn as the local refuse centre. For you completely unskilled and unimaginative' Sailors' who don't know pot metal from bronze or lignum vita from hemlock let me tell you that better stuff was thrown away than you can find at your fancy new stuff store. The skill and imagination to do what Brent and I have done successfully and with considerable satisfaction for 38 years is something that that others may not want to emulate but to not be able to understand, well that's just sad. Just keep your shelf stocking job so you can pay the moorage on your dunky plastic and don't lose the dream of maybe really going sailing one day.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Len- a lot of us plastic sailors go to the defender sale or Less Marine. Then to tractor supply or to commercial liquidation sales and get the same stuff for 1/2 price. We've learned if it's in a chandlery is twice the price and it's worth the time to tract down a commercial supplier whenever you can. Some of us keep on to houses so we can have have a woodworking and metal shop and a big Miller welder in the basement. It's not an either or but rather a both. We're in process of downsizing. Big discussion is I'm willing to get rid of all the furniture even the pieces I built. But I'm not willing to sell any of the tools I and my father collected. Mounting board for the commissions plaque is going on a teak board salvaged from a writing box found in dumpster outside a school being torn down. We are brothers in sailing not us and them.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Still would be delighted to see more pictures ,links, or plans of steel sailboats allowing exploration of the diversity of this type of craft. Agree with Bob the thread has become too limited only centered on Brent boats. Taunton, Pape, Puffin and Waterline have been mentioned. Are there others that appeal ?
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Not sure at all why it has to be "us and them". I appreciate BS boats for what they are. But BS seems to think we should all embrace them as the universal balm for all sailing needs and furthermore, if you don't buy into that then you are stupid. He also endows his boats with powers they simply do not have. That gets a wee bit weird sometimes and given some of his claims I feel my intelligence is insulted when he expects me to buy his drivel. His grasp of the technical side of yacht design is at best tenuous and at worst dangerous. I applaud BS's ingenuity and resourcefulness but the end product does not interest me at all. But that's just me. If you like the result then I do not see that as any kind of character flaw or failure. Different boats for different folks.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

this thread does bring out the absolutes.
one thing i will say for anti-establishment, stinkfoot, broke-as-a-joke, more-time-than-money sailors is that they don't go crying to mom and dad and threaten to leave when someone disagrees with them, then announce they are leaving, then announce that they have left.... and then keep posting.

They just keep posting.
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