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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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That's a lot of boat.

As in Lots of money, Lots of upkeep or looks like a good trade. Where might I go wrong owning this vessel?
What are you trading up from? That's a very handsome boat that looks well executed and well cared for - not too old either. No 'Brent boat'!

But first and foremost I think you need to have thought through all the ramifications of owning such a large vessel, hence my question. Trading up from 45-50? maybe not such a reach... from 30-35? maybe different story.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I was at shil shoal about 1pm or so, did not see FL. I was walking mr winston with a group of 25 other cavs, or the 25 cavs were walking there humans as it were.

I did see a white hulled boat going back to shil shoal from the west magnolia bluff.....could have been FL. but did not have binocs.

Talked to david on phone as he got to Edmonds in the 1d, he saw you at the end, motoring as I recall. I did see the big group heading south, sloooooooooooooooowly. Hope they manage to finish.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Good to see this thread back on course. My last comment was not intended to piddle in any particular sandbox. That's why I used phrases like 'One can' and 'some of us' and 'some'.Reading and comprehension are useful skills too.It was never intended to be a us/them comment. If some individual feels that I dampened their sand, well, that's what the plastic shovel is for. As for useful boat related info integrated in the many threads 'each of us' can decide for ourselves what is pertinent or crap .Sort of like dumpster diving or reading Sci Fi. As for putting out pointers on how to tighten dead eyes/lanyards or 8 siding a 50 ft spar or setting up a fided topmast , few of my fellow sail netters would have an interest.But that is my sandbox and I'm not offended if you'd rather play in yours.
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"Cavs"? You mean Spaniels? Ooooh.

It's hard to mistake Frankie from other boats. I suspect you saw it.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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From 3-4 miles high on a hill.......hard to say, but I think I did. I looked at G dock, but did not see a mast as I would suspect FL to have. Probably should have walked down the gas dock.

Walk was with King Charles Cavalier spaniels. pic of mr winston below!

back to filling out resume for a job I am applying to that will hopefully pay and be a bit better than I have!

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Just saw some pics on SA, yes I did see FL heading back under sail.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I may be a bit guilty there. But my family is a huge part of my life, like yacht design. I really can't separate those things. Brent brags about having no family and that is fine. Works for him. Takes all types. But I'm not sure he is qualified to comment on family issues. He has zero experience there. I cherish my family and that includes my dogs and my cat. It's just who I am.
Family photos, and dainty toy boat photos have nothing to do with pros and cons of steel boats, which is what most come here for info on.
Why don't you start a new thread on family photos ( called Bob's family)and toy boats, so you can bow your horn there all you want ( and see if anyone is interested)
You are certainly not particularly qualified to talk about offshore steel cruising boats, ( which is why you keep changing the subject) having had so little experience in building, owning, cruising, and maintaining them ( almost zero).

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Lots of room on the ocean for different talents, techniques and imaginative skills. This thread pretty well runs the gamut even if it wanders greatly. If one has the money ,one can buy most any talent etc. If the budget or inclination requires some ingenuity then some imagination in the recycle /reconfigure department can be the ticket.Some of us(me included) take real joy in building our boats and its parts from what some scorn as the local refuse centre. For you completely unskilled and unimaginative' Sailors' who don't know pot metal from bronze or lignum vita from hemlock let me tell you that better stuff was thrown away than you can find at your fancy new stuff store. The skill and imagination to do what Brent and I have done successfully and with considerable satisfaction for 38 years is something that that others may not want to emulate but to not be able to understand, well that's just sad. Just keep your shelf stocking job so you can pay the moorage on your dunky plastic and don't lose the dream of maybe really going sailing one day.
Well said Len! You nailed it!
Speaking resourcefulness, imagination and innovation ( seamanship) to the well programed consumer, is like speaking Chinese to a unilingual Greek. They even have to make up quotes, so they will have something to disagree with! They are just incapable of ever getting it. It would be far more crowded out here in paradise if they could. Thankfully they never will.
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