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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

There would be some logistical issues welding Ti.. can't be welded in free air, needs to be done in an argon cloud or it will literally catch fire... It can be done, but it complicates things... The light/spark show when you're sandblasting it prior to painting would be fun, though...

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Faster any guesstimates on cost foe a 45' hull? Just raw materials..

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Tell me about that big houseboat in your pics. It looks amazing. What happened to it?
it is a long story but, basically it put me on the map, i was paid 2k to have it, then i sold it a week later, during winter here in canada's west coast, and gales ripped thru fulford harbor, so i sold it, hard to anchor 197 tons in gales, so.. i panicked, folded my cards, sold it to ganges marina, where they fought islands trust 5 years to keep it and sunk twice, it was a soot show,lol, i sold it for 8k, so it was a stressful 10k profit,
wont be doing that again

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Don't forget the often heard about but seldom seen "demolition derby regatta". How's that hull going to hold up when it's T-boned by a BS boat.


We have a great demolition derby most weeks on Sydney Harbour
The CYCA(of Sydney to Hobart fame) summer/winter series has seen 200 boats line up to a start line.

It is is ridiculous fun.

I remember one of the new millionaire maxi toys cutting the fleet up a few years back, the skipper screaming "mother f***ing starboard" to all, but as he came up on one of the old salts on a Van de Stadt the guy looked over at him and just replied "STEEL"

The maxi beared away.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

If you don't pine for a top o the line titanium hull .,you're just part of the bottom feeders club. Yellow cedar worked for me but everything is relative.
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it is a long story but, basically it put me on the map, i was paid 2k to have it, then i sold it a week later, during winter here in canada's west coast, and gales ripped thru fulford harbor, so i sold it, hard to anchor 197 tons in gales, so.. i panicked, folded my cards, sold it to ganges marina, where they fought islands trust 5 years to keep it and sunk twice, it was a soot show,lol, i sold it for 8k, so it was a stressful 10k profit,
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??? To what are you referring?

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??? To what are you referring?
The "house" "boat" that Bob asked him about, I think. It is in his photo section.
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Faster any guesstimates on cost foe a 45' hull? Just raw materials..
No idea.. member Stumble would know better. We used a lot of it in the Pulp & Paper industry - it's the only material that resisted the corrosion of the ClO2 we used for bleaching. As a general comparison, but no idea how valid it would be in this case... a regular SS tubing connector ran $15-20... the same fitting in Ti was $100. How that would compare to relative sheet/plate prices I'm not sure..

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

It would be my assumption that if you bought enough to do a 40' boat, you'd get at least a bit of a volume discount, but a 24" x 24" x 0.125" sheet of titanium at McMaster-Carr is $1592, while a sheet of 24" x 24" x 0.125" of high quality (corrosion resistant, high strength) aluminum is $110. Like I said, ~14x more than aluminum. I'm guessing that you'd also want to do more than 0.125" thick hulls..

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