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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I'm afraid to ask what the "enten-popo" it comes with is.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

"No ,you wont post Frankie's stability curve here, because it would back up my claim that a narrow beam and trunk cabin, eliminates AVS concerns." BS

No, I won't post it here primarily to annoy you. By now you must have realized I'm not here to pander to your problems.

I don't think anyone familiar with stability studies disputes that narrow beam boats, providing they have a low VCG, have good stability numbers. That's common knowledge. I don't recall anyone disputing that. It most certainly is not a BS "revelation". Maybe you just figured it out. Catch up.



You can't provide a set of lines but you can provide a stability curve? I would be highly skeptical of a stability curve coming from a hack who proposed a reasonable AVS of "182 degrees". Your words Brent, not mine. I still laugh when I type it. Clearly Brent you have a tenuous at best grasp of stability numbers. But as you keep reminding us, you have a math problem. No shitski.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Yes Bob, and likewise ,anyone who wants to see a picture of my boat and a stability curve can check out the origamiboats site.
No ,you wont post Frankie's stability curve here, because it would back up my claim that a narrow beam and trunk cabin, eliminates AVS concerns.
I've checked out your site Brent - and have been through all the galleries. Where are your photos? I've looked through the galleries and don't see anything (see attachment).

I did find a couple of photos of your boat from 13 years ago (from a great distance -see attached) that Alex uploaded - but nothing that would show the recent pristine condition you claim your boat to currently be in.

Again, you're not being honest. It would be wonderful if you could just start there...for once.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I don't think Brent can be honest. He doesn't have it in him. It's congenital. He's been a liar for so long it all seems real to him now. I'm pretty sure he doesn't know the difference. Just make it up and say it. Hell, he makes up things I say!

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

What kind of "customer" would sink their life savings into this guy's promises PURELY on a "just trust me" basis - when it's been proven over and over again in this thread that most of his claims don't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny?

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Two of his boats pictured at Fanning says something about them.

That blue hulled one looks like one of Samson's better builds in ferro - the C-Ghost IIRC. Could be a pretty decent looking boat with a bit of properly coloured paint.

What is it with the number of Brent's clients who like to paint their boats ugly/weird colours?

Let the blind jokes begin.

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What is it with the number of Brent's clients who like to paint their boats ugly/weird colours?
I really like the dark/bold colors. They seem to "fit" with the boat style.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Well guys, it has been a long time since I was able to actually do much more than scan over the postings for the day here on my emails. I have missed the conversations, in fact i missed them so much that here in the next few days when my current contract ends I am going to be working less, and I will be able to be on here a bit more often.

I am looking forward to travelling again, and getting out of Laredo, it was all good while 2/3s of you were freezing your keisters off this winter that seemed not to want to give up, but it hit 100 today and not the first time so it is time to leave.

Good to see that all my sailnet friends are having fun, Bob, Smack, JonB, and good BS. I see a few new faces, and it is good to have more folks to talk about what we all love. I am looking forward to going sailing with a couple of friends later in the summer. I hope to be able to send some of those photos that everyone loves to see.

Bob, your latest design is awesome as usual, race on if you can peer pressure Kim into it LOL. I would love to see photos of her under full sail, I know she is fast just from the few photos I have seen. I am still working my way to purchasing, and I am getting to the point where I am going to buy something to play with until I get the "right" one. I cannot do a custom Perry Design boat, but I hope to be able to get a really nice old used boat pretty soon.

Anyways, keep up the fun and post more photos...

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Mark, Mark, mark!

How jio pu tsien, (long time no see)

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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