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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Denda:
Yep, the Fiasco should be a lot of fun. I've neverr done a race like that before, i.e. rounding the buoys in any direction and any order. We will be near the last boat to start. I'm looking forward to it. Races all over this weekend.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Thanks, Bob.. you too.

Water gets pretty thin just north of Jeff head.. be careful around there..
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Denda:
We have two on board that live on the West side of the Sound. We'll be alert.

Besides, we only draw 10'. The new project I'm involved with draws 18'!
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Denda:
We have two on board that live on the West side of the Sound. We'll be alert.

Besides, we only draw 10'. The new project I'm involved with draws 18'!
With that much keel to support I sure hope she's a steel boat!

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You know, it's a pity that the two dominant voices on this thread BOTH represent the cons of steel boats. One does it voluntarily the other involuntarily. As a recovering wooden boat owner I have a hard time seeing wood as a viable material for anything bigger than a tender, but steel I think has it's merits if well designed and constructed.

For those that missed it, I said well designed. If you doubt the necessity of a professional designing your boat, see also the boat in Anacortes that flipped over upon launch a couple weeks ago.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Med:
We are steel where it counts. Stainless steel.


As for steel boats. I have zero against well designed steel boats. One of my very favorite boats is a steel boat. I just want to see good design talent at work.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

David,

How many are doing the mad dash?

EYC is doing a crazy dash back from ludlow doing the labor day cruise. Would you be interested in coming? I can sen you info. Hope to be getting that done in a bit.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Med you may want to take a peak at some cold molded or strip planked boats. With current techniques no more maintenance then glass and as Jeff pointed out when done right stronger then steel as regards weight strength ratio. Active construction of some fine very modern wood boats in Europe, lundenberg canada and elsewhere. U.S. market maybe too biased toward grp discounting merits of other materials.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

you should post that on the fiberglassing a wood boat thread...

there are very very modern wood boats being made...

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sturdy steel frame for the keel bob!

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Med you may want to take a peak at some cold molded or strip planked boats. With current techniques no more maintenance then glass and as Jeff pointed out when done right stronger then steel as regards weight strength ratio. Active construction of some fine very modern wood boats in Europe, lundenberg canada and elsewhere. U.S. market maybe too biased toward grp discounting merits of other materials.
Yes, I know that cold molded wood can be even stronger and lighter than fibgerglass, and Night Runner (a Bob Perry design) is an amazing version of this construction method that I have sailed on and is a boat that I admire deeply.

While I understand that wood can be a great boat-building material, you have to understand where I'm coming from too. You see, I still lift up the rug in the living room of my house every hour in order to check the "bilge" for water.

(twitch) (twitch) No wooden boats for me! (twitch)

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

In nearly 40 year of coastal cruising the only water in Thanes bilge came in thru the stuffing box (twitch) or a failed pump seal (twitch) . Not that I ever worried about it (twitch) but the odd satisfaction of sailing a homemade woodie made up for the twitch. Not a null tech by any means but built what I knew and could afford at the time.
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