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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I owned hull number one Bystedt CHINOOK. I still have the half model.

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Pratski:
I owned hull number one Bystedt CHINOOK. I still have the half model.
Good to know; thanks. Let me know if you're ever inclined to clean house.
I wonder if CHINOOK is still in the area?
TEGARRI, which was pictured on the original marketing brochures, was repainted in blue AwlGrip, and is still active and moored in Ballard. The current owner of that boat talked with the owner of another Bystedt passing by in the Ship Canal, but I haven't seen that one myself.
We purchased ours in Everett several years ago; originally red gelcoat (still red, but repainted). It was named ROSETTA 1 when we purchased her, since renamed "SCOUT". Ours has been moored at EBM since we got her.
There's another red Bystedt in Portland which was listed on YachtWorld a while back, but I don't know the current status. Then there's GOOD NEWS, which tore it up on the local racing circuit for many years under a previous owner (he now races a J boat, "Great White").
Our old girl is still going strong, and getting younger with every completed project.
Back to the spirit of the thread: I'm glad that this is not a steel boat.
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Yes, I can see a sealed mast in a Laser or a boat like my Escape that has an enclosed/sealed mast. But those boats dont have halyards they have sleaved mains that slip over the mast. On a boat with halyards you are better off with them internal for windage. Conduits and foam would add weight.

There is a real good reason you don't see good well designed boats with steel masts.
I think that reason might be because having a BS mast might look like having a stick of oilfield casing for a mast. I can just see ol Brent scrounging around and finding his perfect mast, a 47 foot piece of 7 1/2 " P110 casing, threaded on the male end with an 8 round thread and a seal ring that woukd be airtight, weld a plug in the collar on the female end and it's a mast LOL. Complete with an API number on the side rating it for pressure....


Yep, that would be about 23 pounds a foot of steel weight.

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Pratski:
I owned hull number one Bystedt CHINOOK. I still have the half model.
Why was the design named Bystedt? Unusual name for a boat design, rings somewhat famliliar to me. Like an IKEA name ... (don't hit me, just asking).

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You will have to take up the IKEA thing with the client for the boat. His name was Gary Bystedt.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

So is the Bystead 30 a typical "furniture boat?"

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The Bystedt 30 was designed to the IOR half ton limit, 21.5. It has a basic interior and I did cruise mine a bit. But at that time we had a very active half ton racing fleet in the PNW and primary use of the boat was racing. In no way is it a "furniture boat". Not sure I even know what that means. But if it means lots of furniture the answer is no.

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The Bystedt 30 was designed to the IOR half ton limit, 21.5. It has a basic interior and I did cruise mine a bit. But at that time we had a very active half ton racing fleet in the PNW and primary use of the boat was racing. In no way is it a "furniture boat". Not sure I even know what that means. But if it means lots of furniture the answer is no.
It was a term I herd often as the owner of a Formosa 41. Yes, it means a boat with a lot of wood down below and is usually uttered by racers in a derogatory way. For example, "I can't believe we got overtaken by the furniture boat (Airloom) again!"

I thought it was a nice double entendre to follow on to the Ikea-name reference. I'm starting to wonder who I'm going to get to laugh first, you or my cat. I'll keep trying at both and see who cracks up first.

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