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Not sure if this has been posted but it came up in my recent searches.

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Seems we have a cost/ROI issue here. 3 years and it has lost almost 2/3 of the initial cost to build. Ouch. Something also tells me that work hours into the project isn't calculated into that 70k cost. Nice interior from the pics. Hard to tell about the the hull/rig/etc since there are not many pics. But it does look like a work boat. In fact, compared to most work boats I see it is pretty rough but the price reflects that.

Still, don't want a sub 40 steel boat. 18000/5600# is getting kinda thin on the ballast side too isn't it? Oh, and aren't those regular ole lifelines?
there is one down in mexico a 36 I beleive that is in decent shape and priced accordingly for what its worth
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Nice Passport 43 for sale there for $274,000.
But Bob, what do I do when the inevitable back hoe takes a shot at my family while coming over the Gulf? Seems if I had a BS it would take 8 hours to sink me and by then I might have sailed away. I mean not too far of course, it's a slow steel boat, but the back hoe doesn't have reach and in 8 hours I would be at least 1 NM away.

Seriously though, love the Passports. Found one getting close to our budget. We know some folks that have one in Tahiti right now. THEY LOVE IT!!!
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But Bob, what do I do when the inevitable back hoe takes a shot at my family while coming over the Gulf? Seems if I had a BS it would take 8 hours to sink me and by then I might have sailed away. I mean not too far of course, it's a slow steel boat, but the back hoe doesn't have reach and in 8 hours I would be at least 1 NM away.

Seriously though, love the Passports. Found one getting close to our budget. We know some folks that have one in Tahiti right now. THEY LOVE IT!!!
To adapt an old saying to your situation: You don't have to sail faster than the backhoe. You just have to sail faster than a Swain.
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there is one down in mexico a 36 I beleive that is in decent shape and priced accordingly for what its worth
I have seen that one. La Paz I believe. We are heading down there to spend 10 days on a Cal 34 and were planning on looking at boats while there.

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Guaymas, not La Paz. Well we won't get to see it while there. I may go see the one in Seattle just to get an idea in person. I mean after all this thread has been going on forever and to really see one in person would be interesting.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Funny how the more high tech boats get, the more their keels keep falling off. That rarely happened back when they relied on past experience and common sense.
There is a discussion elsewhere on this site where a Hunter couldn't make it out f Juan de Fuca without her rudder breaking off.
A couple of clients said they had racing skippers aboard, who couldn't believe the speed their brentboats were making on their GPS units. They said such a heavy boat was just not supposed to sail that fast.

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Funny how the more high tech boats get, the more their keels keep falling off. That rarely happened back when they relied on past experience and common sense.
There is a discussion elsewhere on this site where a Hunter couldn't make it out f Juan de Fuca without her rudder breaking off.
A couple of clients said they had racing skippers aboard, who couldn't believe the speed their brentboats were making on their GPS units. They said such a heavy boat was just not supposed to sail that fast.
Batman was sailing with me the other day. He said he couldn't believe how tough and fast 1989 Hunter 40s are. He said such a light boat is supposed to get attacked by backhoes (the new Kraken) and sink because it has tiny little hatch pins that don't really exist. I told him to stop being a moron and grab me a beer. He happened to have one in his utility belt. I was impressed.
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I like the Lewmar Atlantic portlight and it uses 3/16" dia. ( probably 4.75 mm) pins. I have never even seen a portlight with 1/16" dia. hinge pins. Somebody is making things up again. If it involves a number I'd be suspect of anything BS has to say.
Brent can definitely get pretty creative with numbers...

One of my favorites was his claim that FOUR of his close friends have been lost due to the failure of conventional lifelines...
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Brent can definitely get pretty creative with numbers...

One of my favorites was his claim that FOUR of his close friends have been lost due to the failure of conventional lifelines...
Maybe they had their GPS antennae attached to their lifelines?
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Maybe, poking fun at lives lost at sea isn't the most tasteful thing to do...

Also, i have seen ripped apart a plastic boat with a 1 ton pickup, and 30 feet of chain. We called it the truck saw, and the heavily built 1960 glass, didn't even try to put up a fight...

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