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Welcome Panope! Glad to see you here. Now I don't have to toot your horn anymore. Your boat is one of my top ten favorites. It is unique and beautifully done and proof that metal boats do not have to be ugly and style anemic.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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You have blurred the line between engineering and art. I am very impressed.

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Sill got lots of charts inside to Skagway if you are going that way,
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P is proof it doesn't matter what material is used if the benefits of that material are exploited with a good design that's well executed. Good boat for that purpose well done. Love the bollard.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Before my next wiring project, I'm going to pull up this photo and just stare at it for a while. Hopefully it will remind me not to cut any corners.



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Panope sets the bar pretty high. There is never anything sloppy in his work. I guess when you build your own airplane you learn not to cut corners.

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Before my next wiring project, I'm going to pull up this photo and just stare at it for a while. Hopefully it will remind me not to cut any corners.



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Assuming the usual # of feet of heavy battery cable, that pic has around 25% - 30% of the entire cost of my boat in it.

If I stared at that pic too long while contemplating rewiring my boat I think I'd go back to oil lamps & hand starting.

I'm not worthy.
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I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Thanks everyone, for the warm welcome.

Capt Len: Very generous offer. I wont be headed North for the big trip for a few years as I am in a fairly "domestic" phase of life currently. But thanks anyway.

outbound: Good point about materials. I'll mention that although I really dig aluminum as a boat building material, I would love this boat the same no matter what she was made of. Emotional attachment does not adhere to any form of logic.

MedSailor: I worked for a couple years at a high-end yacht builder. When they gave me my first electrical wiring project, they said to just make it beautiful no matter how long it takes.

Bob: I think I got whatever I have from the examples my parents set. Dad would stick through a long project no matter what. Mom was a natural born artist who was always searching for beauty.

SloopJonB: Ya, I could have shortened up some of those runs. I hate it when wires cross each other. O.C.D.

I'll post some more shots of things that are relevant to the topic.

Fore deck hatch doubles as a snug seat for two. Will remain unpainted.





The only piece of advice that my father offered for this rebuild was: "Don't have any wood on the outside of the boat" (We love wood and love working with wood but We dislike repetitive maintenance). The goal was achieved when the teak chimney wedge was replaced by this unit that is welded to the cabin top.





I eliminated the conventional through hulls and welded standpipes in their place.

Here is the raw water intake. Marlon Valve is above water line. With the strainer lid and valve open. Blockages can be reamed clear with a strait rod (fuel dipstick).





Shroud chain plates. One per side. three layer of plate totaling one inch thick at eye.



Davit/Radar mast.



Davit pivot socket.





Boom received a tapered, octagonal section aft.





Octagon to round splice prior to welding.



Mast head. Same sort of tapered octagon.





Fuel tank 45 gal. One port, one starboard. 90 gal total.



Fuel Sump. Bronze fittings have since been changed out to stainless steel.



Steering system components.





The wheel needed to be placed as far outboard as possible. The clearance Blister got me a couple extra inches.





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I can't even see the bar anymore.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Now you're just showing off!

You need to give BS some style lessons. You seem to sort of subscribe to his underlying philosophy of strong & simple & foolproof but there is just no comparison in the execution - you do a lot of very cool things with that boat. I'm sure any outfit like Palmer Johnson would hire you on the spot with your boat as a resume.

Your Dad gave you good advice re: no wood.

P.S. - OCD is good when it comes to wiring, especially on a metal boat.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.

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