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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Naa. Those origamiboats pics will be old and, as usual, very misleading in redards to what you're claiming about how perfect your boat is...today. And I know you don't want to ever mislead people, Brent. Heh-heh.
That site with the pics of the blocks is dead as well - I'd like to see some of the "accessories" as well as the boats, including the welded on cleats, solid fuel stoves and so forth.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Got it Jon. I love this pub.
What do you mean BS uses "stoves"?
I thought you just built a campfire on deck.
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Granted NOT the best picture. Here is a boat in Port Townsend I keep seeing weekly. Not too bad of a looking boat. But can not imagine it being able to go to forward with out drifting as much sideways as forward! Maybe with a CB, or a bit more draft via the full keel, or a modified fin, add some depth to the rudder........

A bit more sail area would probably help too. I would swag one needs at least 20 if not 30 knots of wind.........any way, my contraband.........oooops, contribution for the day!

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Interesting boat.
Nice looking boat sitting to the right of it though.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

That one might still be there. Shilo the name of the green one, has been there a few months. I'm recalling the white one being for sale. Will look at it again friday if I am up that way. I'm typically delivering stuff to this yard wed/friday.

I did not see Davids boat at the main marina, nor did it look like it was still moored to the west/south of the main marina, or to the east. From pics, it should be easy to spot due to it having permanent steps on the mast to climb it.

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Over the years I have encountered at least 2 Brent Swain boats. Probably more but I do not always know the designer of the boat I am looking at. I do not recall the names of the boats, the names of the owners, and I did not take pictures. The boats were well made, purposefully built boats. I liked them. They had all the hallmarks of a metal boat. Welded on mooring cleats, stanchions, pulpits and everything else. Everything was painted and looked good and the boats were a very long ways from home.
These boats were built for a purpose. Just as an AC72 is. They could have been built or modified for a different purpose. Would I want one myself for the kind of sailing I do? If my choices were a Valiant 32, Tashiba 31, Brent Swain 31, Baba 30, or Islander 28, I would choose the Brent Swain 31. And I have no doubt that I could sail it - in all directions - equal to or faster than all the other boats mentioned. I have sailed on all of the other boats mentioned. I have sailed past all the other boats mentioned - and I know the math.
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"I have sailed on all of the other boats mentioned. I have sailed past all the other boats mentioned - and I know the math."

Of course you have and of course you do. Why would we not believe you?

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Over the years I have encountered at least 2 Brent Swain boats. Probably more but I do not always know the designer of the boat I am looking at. I do not recall the names of the boats, the names of the owners, and I did not take pictures. The boats were well made, purposefully built boats. I liked them. They had all the hallmarks of a metal boat. Welded on mooring cleats, stanchions, pulpits and everything else. Everything was painted and looked good and the boats were a very long ways from home.
These boats were built for a purpose. Just as an AC72 is. They could have been built or modified for a different purpose. Would I want one myself for the kind of sailing I do? If my choices were a Valiant 32, Tashiba 31, Brent Swain 31, Baba 30, or Islander 28, I would choose the Brent Swain 31. And I have no doubt that I could sail it - in all directions - equal to or faster than all the other boats mentioned. I have sailed on all of the other boats mentioned. I have sailed past all the other boats mentioned - and I know the math.
You named the Valiant 32, the Tashiba 31, the Baba 30, and the islander 28 in the same sentence with a BS 31? Now you say you can sail faster than or equal to all of them on the BS boat? Were these boats on the hard in the marina when you sailed past them? Had the masts been removed or something equally as drastic? Somehow I think maybe this is a "paid spokesperson" for BS. I know it is a BS statement. You name four of the best blue water cruising boats in the world and state that a Brent Swain 31 would out perform them? Not even if it were towed.


This appears to be the normal position of a BS boat at sea, mounting some random obstruction like a dog....

FYI this is purported to be the BS 36 MOM, however I am not 100% sure. I do believe it is a BS boat, as it seems to be following its natural instincts to hump a reef or rock for several hours.



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You named the Valiant 32, the Tashiba 31, the Baba 30, and the islander 28 in the same sentence with a BS 31? Now you say you can sail faster than or equal to all of them on the BS boat? Were these boats on the hard in the marina when you sailed past them? Had the masts been removed or something equally as drastic? Somehow I think maybe this is a "paid spokesperson" for BS. I know it is a BS statement. You name four of the best blue water cruising boats in the world and state that a Brent Swain 31 would out perform them? Not even if it were towed.


This appears to be the normal position of a BS boat at sea, mounting some random obstruction like a dog....

FYI this is purported to be the BS 36 MOM, however I am not 100% sure. I do believe it is a BS boat, as it seems to be following its natural instincts to hump a reef or rock for several hours.


Thank goodness they have those awkwardly tall lifelines to keep them on the stranded boat.

Oh, and Brent doesn't pay his spokespeople. He salvages them.


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Unfortunate image but not a bad looking boat. The hull shape is kind of funky going forward. It appears to be a nicely built boat.

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