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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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I think we just did the same thing on the ever lovely FRANCIS LEE, aka The Sliver. Red cedar strip planking over a few bulkheads. We used interior joinery panels for longitudinal stiffening.

Now I need a catchy name for the method.
How about, "Building with Wood".

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Woo Hoo Bob- you may be on to something. Maybe you could show your technique to the folks at Cape George on your side or the B+ G folks near me. (GRIN).
They just recently towed the Mayflower back to America's Home Town. (Plimouth). Amazing how that wood stuff holds up and how they can rebuilt it when it gets old.

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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

You can rebuild anything when it gets old - it just depends how much you're willing to spend.

I watched a couple of guys "rebuild" a late 60's Bronco from nothing but the cowl, literally - EVERYTHING else, every scrap of sheetmetal, the frame etc. etc. was replaced.

Much the same as some of those "rebuilds" of dead wood boats.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

When I first started going to Taiwan I would see "body shops" where cars were reduced down to just a frame and a raw metal body sitting on the side. They would rebuild the entire car. Ran into a Vietnamese mechanic at a Volvo shop should who could make a car key by hand with just a key blank and a file.
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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

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Would seem this line of thinking would also apply to other materials not just steel. Even a glass boat when hit in a manner that the force was oblique to the plane of the hull would be stronger. It would be weakest if struck perpendicular to the hull. Increased curvature would also decrease likelihood of "oilcanning". Would think this improvement would be more likely to occur in a fully developed hull with compound curves than a chined hull or hull with simple curves. Would think having a fine bow would likely also increase strength in context of impact . Speaks well for the Sliver.
Still remember earlier post about hitting the corner of a container at hull speed. That remains my nightmare so think having a forward collusion bulkhead makes sense.
If your impact was at the point where the collision bulkhead met the hull, the bulkhead would increase the odds of holing. If you can survive a hull speed collision with the sharp corner of a sunken barge with zero damage then the collision bulkhead would be redundant

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I know what you are saying there Brent but there sure are a lot of variables. And your last statement includes a very big "IF".

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Who is the lady?

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Kerry, wife of Blackjenner, they are friends of Sliver's owner.
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They are my friends too. They own the FD35 ph that I raced in the Race Your House race.

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