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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

I keep a roll of thick plastic on my boat with the hopes that I could reduce the leakage if I have a hull breach.

Useless?
Paranoid?
Smart?

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Come on Marty, drive down to the the winery tonight and watch me rock the house.

We start at 7pm. Got to run.
Does your affection for the winery explain your posts? Sure looks that way!
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Brent:
Nice letter from one happy customer. Good for you.
But you still sound very defensive and angry. You work so hard at trying to describe the perfection of your life. You seem to enjoy attacking and name calling if people don't agree with your philosphy. You do a lot of name calling. Name calling is a very weak way of trying to make a point. It hasn't worked for you here after all your tries.

Live and let live Brent. Enjoy your success and let other enjoy theirs. Just in case you missed it, I know you would hate that, here is FRANCIS LEE getting the deck painted or actually faired at this point. It makes me very happy to watch this project as I'm sure it makes you happy to watch your projects come to life. End of October we should see a launch.
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While racing in the Northern Century Race last month with my daughter (The first father-daughter team to ever compete (yes, I'm bragging))..

I had finally broken free of Haro Strait, and was making over 9 knots OTG on the way to Hein Bank..

It was the middle of the night, and I was about 30 hours into the race.. I was very tired..

All of the sudden I saw what looked like a telephone pole pass by my lee.. maybe 6 feet away.. freaked me out

then another...

and another..

Realized that it was shadows from the moonlight on the waves..

Freaky.

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Brent: I got this nice email today from a fellow who has been cruising his Baba 30 in the So Pac for the past five years.


"I would also like to thank you personally for giving the boating industry what I think of as the best cruzing vessels available.

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Denda:
You were out in Haro? at night? in a grp boat? with your daughter? And you lived to tell this story?
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Bob , you are the poster boy for what Andy describes as attacking any suggestion that people don't need a huge amount of money to cruise.
Sure, prostitution to the corporate world pays, $150 an hour I am told, but I am not about to screw anyone out of their cruising dreams ,by spreading disinformation designed to screw them out of their dreams, further padding the over padded nest of the rich. I don't do that kind of "Designing."
Should anyone be ashamed that such elitist "Designing " pisses him off? I'm not!
I enjoy seeing one of my boats launched ,especially by someone who couldn't have afforded it without my help. Far more satisfying.

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You were out in Haro? at night? in a grp boat? with your daughter? And you lived to tell this story?
Brave man.
Yes, Bob

I'm a pretty careful sailor.. We stayed clipped in, and off the foredeck at night.

No flying sails at night either, which hurt us.

I feel very safe in my GRP boat.

I also build GRP airplanes.

I'll still feel safe when I finally get a chance to fly on one.

Different materials and constructions have different failure modes.

It's clear to me that well-built GRP boats are plenty strong enough.

Even if the "telephone poles" were real, I expect I would have ridden right over them.

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While racing in the Northern Century Race last month with my daughter (The first father-daughter team to ever compete (yes, I'm bragging))..

I had finally broken free of Haro Strait, and was making over 9 knots OTG on the way to Hein Bank..

It was the middle of the night, and I was about 30 hours into the race.. I was very tired..

All of the sudden I saw what looked like a telephone pole pass by my leeward.. maybe 6 feet away.. freaked me out

then another...

and another..

Realized that it was shadows from the moonlight on the waves..

Freaky.
A handy trick for entering a harbour at night, is to find a light beam shining on the water, from the direction you want to go. Follow the light beam and if there were anything between you and it ,it would show up clearly.

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Brent:
Nice letter from one happy customer. Good for you.
But you still sound very defensive and angry. You work so hard at trying to describe the perfection of your life. You seem to enjoy attacking and name calling if people don't agree with your philosphy. You do a lot of name calling. Name calling is a very weak way of trying to make a point. It hasn't worked for you here after all your tries.

Live and let live Brent. Enjoy your success and let other enjoy theirs. Just in case you missed it, I know you would hate that, here is FRANCIS LEE getting the deck painted or actually faired at this point. It makes me very happy to watch this project as I'm sure it makes you happy to watch your projects come to life. End of October we should see a launch.
I don't have my winery to keep me happy! I don't drink, so I have to deal with reality.
Angry? Me? No way! I just believe in stating the facts, against all the disinformation the ship swindlers and their gigilos are spreading.

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