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bavaria vs ?

sorry for repeat post (placed in bavaria section but doesn't look like that's much frequented..).

question-- I looked at a 1999 '38 bavaria CC the other day. Really nice boat/ well maintained, has all the extras I'm looking for.. only problem is really wobbly stanchions. I've read that this is an issue w/ bavarias and there are some articles on (fairly involved) ways to remedy this.

here's my questions: Is this a deal breaker? are wobbly stanchions indicative of larger crappy structural issues? Is this going to lead to leakage issues? regarding structural- based on my research it looks like no- it's just a poor design localized to the stanchion bases. The bases aren't wobbly- it's the stanchion within the base that has the play. Does this get to the point of being unsafe? Or is it more of an annoying wobble that doesn't have much real significance? Our goal with the boat is to cruise with 3 kids/ mostly chest bay local stuff but in 5 years a year of island hopping, maybe one or 2 annap-bermuda for blue water stuff. I guess I'm asking a difficult question-- whether or not this 1) needs to be fixed for safety and 2) if this is enough of major job to dissuade me from an otherwise great boat?

thanks for any input.

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sorry for repeat post (placed in bavaria section but doesn't look like that's much frequented..).

question-- I looked at a 1999 '38 bavaria CC the other day. Really nice boat/ well maintained, has all the extras I'm looking for.. only problem is really wobbly stanchions. I've read that this is an issue w/ bavarias and there are some articles on (fairly involved) ways to remedy this.

here's my questions: Is this a deal breaker? are wobbly stanchions indicative of larger crappy structural issues? Is this going to lead to leakage issues? regarding structural- based on my research it looks like no- it's just a poor design localized to the stanchion bases. The bases aren't wobbly- it's the stanchion within the base that has the play. Does this get to the point of being unsafe? Or is it more of an annoying wobble that doesn't have much real significance? Our goal with the boat is to cruise with 3 kids/ mostly chest bay local stuff but in 5 years a year of island hopping, maybe one or 2 annap-bermuda for blue water stuff. I guess I'm asking a difficult question-- whether or not this 1) needs to be fixed for safety and 2) if this is enough of major job to dissuade me from an otherwise great boat?

thanks for any input.

brad
If the bases are not moving I don't see the problem. If I remember correctly a small movement happened even when the boat was new and that was a safety measure: What is too tight break more easily. Some play was to be expected (not in the base).

Regarding leakage if the problem is not on the base I don't think so. Why do you not dismount one to see how it works and if it is a problem or not? Make that a condition to buy the boat and get a professional to do the job and give you an opinion.

Better, ask him how much he will get for putting everything as it should be and propose a discount of that value on the boat price, or if the owner don't go for it and you really want the boat, 50% for each side

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Re: bavaria vs ?

All stanchions will wobble to some extent especially on the newer boat. I spent 4 to 5 hours looking at a brand new Bavaria 40, her stanchions wobble too. The ones do not wobble are on older boat with each stanchion has two leg (attached points) plus a larger diameter stanchion. I haven't seen those on new boats.

Think of this is similar to a dry wall (sheet rock), by itself it is not very strong, but once it is nailed to the studs, they are strong enough to do the job. Likewise, the stanchions when link together with lifeline, it will guard again someone being threw overboard.

May be you can install the Guardrail net to prevent the little ones and their toys going over.
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Thanks all- appreciate your advice. So tough to know if something minor or tip of iceberg. I was glad to see that the bases were solid and not moving within the toerail cap.
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