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Barquito 11-28-2012 01:17 PM

Aft head boats
 
I will be sailing my Bristol 27 for while yet. However, in looking for a boat that we may someday cruise in, I have been attracted to designs with the heads located aft. Just wondering what 'classic plastic' bluewater boats in the 30-38' range have that arrangement.

Here are a few:

Pacific Seacraft 31
Niagara 35

Tim R. 11-28-2012 01:19 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
Why does the aft head appeal to you? Better access from cockpit? Privacy?

tschmidty 11-28-2012 02:04 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
I actually like that layout as well although I have no real experience with it. It seems to me it'd be nice to step down and immediately be able to hang wet gear in the head rather than going up front. Best suggestion is to poke through yachtworld and look at pictures. A search here should find a thread or two I recall. It seems to be more of a euro thing as I know quite a few Jeaneau and Benateu boats have them as well as some Catalinas and Hunters. Not so sure about classics though, it seems to be a relatively new thing.

SloopJonB 11-28-2012 02:55 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
The aft head layout is by far the best one in my experience. It usually has better headroom, frees up the best part of the boat for better uses, often uses less useful space - putting the head partly under the cockpit for example, permits more variation in the layout, helps to concentrate the through hull fittings, has better access from the cockpit, makes a useful wet locker etc. etc.

Barquito 11-28-2012 03:18 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
Quote:

Why does the aft head appeal to you? Better access from cockpit? Privacy?
I like the idea of having all the bussiness stuff near the cockpit. Head, wet locker, galley, chart table. For boats on the 30 foot end, headroom may be an issue forward of the mast. I understand that heads that are too far forward become somewhat of a bucking bronco in rough weather.

MarkofSeaLife 11-28-2012 04:46 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
One reason why older boats of that size won't have an aft head is the beam was not carried aft under the IOR rule. So the Quarter starts narrowing off very quickly and the head on one side would bump into the galley on the other.

As the racing rules changed and the beam was brought right aft the production boats followed (not the other way around as some suggest). Production boats have stopped at the current beam where racing boats have kept on going to now ridiculousness lengths.... Of beam ;)

Also, of course, as the beam got wider the aft waterline got a lot longer, lower, so none of those narrow sterns that some people adore and I can't figure. But that also means the aft head needs to be higher in the old boats.... But didnt the old toilets need to be below the water level?

As builders say everything is a compromise.

But I do know that an aft head is better for those reasons you describe.
Our first family boat had the head in a cut out of the V berth! Mum and dad had to bail out whenever we 3 kids wanted to go!

With my boat having two heads, fore and aft but only one user (me!) I have the ability to use both... But I normally use the aft head unless at sea then I use the fore head. The aft is bigger but the pump forward worked better at sea.

chucklesR 11-28-2012 04:47 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
Irwin 38 CC has two heads, one aft as part of the master cabin. The boat is wider there so you don't wind up having to squeeze past anything to contrive the space to make one.
It just makes sense.

On the other hand when the going gets rough, the ride does also.

tdw 11-28-2012 06:16 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
Our last two boats (vds34 and Malo39) have had aft heads and I'd not choose to go any other way. Gives you a good place to dump wet stuff , you don't have to drag your sorry wet arse through the boat to get to the bog and they seem relatively comfortable compared to up front.

Being at other end of boat from shore cabin is something of a fartless advantage as well.

ereiss 11-28-2012 07:35 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
Pearson 33-2 would qualify

Faster 11-28-2012 07:50 PM

Re: Aft head boats
 
The later versions of the mid-to-late 80s Ericsons had aft head layouts, they could go on your list. E32,34,38 among them.


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