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Re: Small main sail, large jib - questions

I guess I could do it whilst hove to.....

let the main sheet out when I drop the jib halyard so I won't start spinning like crazy...

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Do you actually thread the downhaul through the hank hardware itself, or just weave it back and forth around the hands between the headstay and the luff of the sail?
I have a loop that the next to top hank goes through (so it doesn't pull down on the top hank, likely to jam up if you do that), and then it just weaves back and forth between the forestay and luff. My line doesn't fit through the hanks, and if it did, I think it would introduce too much friction anyway.

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Update

Haven't rigged the jib downhaul yet, but went out today with 150 in light winds.
Close hauled, trimmed the jib sheet tight, head to wind, jib backwinded, released the halyard and the whole thing dropped right down on the fore-deck and along the side between the shrouds and the lifelines.

I swear it almost flaked itself!

Very sweet. I don't think it will be as easy during stronger winds though.

Next question: I like my autotiller, but its a bit cumbersome. As a simple short term alternative does anyone set up a couple bungee cords?
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Re: Small main sail, large jib - questions

Correct, it won't be quite as easy, and you'll appreciate the downhaul
I have a tiller tamer, Tiller-Tamer by Davis, does what it says on the tin.

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Re: Small main sail, large jib - questions

Tiller tamer is not too bad. On the other hand, if your boat is like mine.....as soon as I getting going straight, I mover forward, or to the other side, the boat does not go straight any more, as it is not in balance from when I set the lines.....BUT, it does have a place.

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Haven't rigged the jib downhaul yet, but went out today with 150 in light winds.
Close hauled, trimmed the jib sheet tight, head to wind, jib backwinded, released the halyard and the whole thing dropped right down on the fore-deck and along the side between the shrouds and the lifelines.

I swear it almost flaked itself!

Very sweet. I don't think it will be as easy during stronger winds though.
In strong winds the forces can tend to partially raise the sail which would fight the downhaul.. in that case try DDW, sheet in hard in the lee of the main, you'll find the sail readily drops because the wind wants to aid the drop, the backwind should allow most of the sail to land on deck.

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Re: Small main sail, large jib - questions

Davis Tiller Tamer works nicely. I often ran it with a little friction so that I could let go for a little bit without issue and without having to constantly adjust it.
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Why does it head to wind well?

Another stupid question:

How can a boat with massive headsails and small mainsail perform well close hauled? Doesn't the big headsail cause lee helm? Why doesn't the smaller mainsail cause not enough weather helm?
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Re: Small main sail, large jib - questions

The reason that boats with massive headsails do not develop massive lee helm is that typically a boat with that rig proportion was designed to balance with these sails in place.

Although seemingly counter intuitive, the other part of this equation that is often overlooked is that the larger the leech of the sail, the more the center of effort is moving aft. So it is that putting up a larger overlapping genoa can add to weather helm rather than reduce it.


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