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Re: Basic rankings of Sailboats

Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Keep in mind that you will virtually never see anything critical about any boat by someone who owns one. The specific boat forums can provide a lot of info by looking in the projects sections - are they doing rudder repairs or galley trim?

The most unbiased info I think comes from people experienced with a particular boat but who don't own one.
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This is a good forum. I beleive there is a place on SN to look at an overvierw of boats by the owners or go to the individual boats owners forum sites. dave

I thought thats what I was saying...maybe i wasnt clear

The most unbiased info I think comes from people experienced with a particular boat but who don't own one
And these would be what delivery captains, racers and marine mechanics?

While I agree about the bias part I think someone who owns a boat and has been on it many hundreds of times will be willing to be forthright and honest in evaluating the deficiencies of their boat. And thery will truly know the boat better than anyone else could. Pride of ownership doesnt necessarily mean you are blind to the problems your particular boat/ design has. You can filter the bias out of it as its expected.

In terms of comparison the delivery captains, racers, mechanics may be able to make comparisons better as they have been on many more varieties and sizes theoretically.

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Re: Basic rankings of Sailboats

Some boat manufacturers and brands have a reputation for good or bad quality, but this is complicated by the fact that sailboats can have different "types of quality", i.e.,

-- overall quality of design and engineering;
-- aesthetics, satisfying design, fit and finish, quality finishes, luxury touches, appearance that boosts pride of ownership;
-- suitability for intended purpose -- racing, dockside entertaining, coastal cruising, crossing oceans, etc., flexibility of design;
-- execution of the design/build quality -- quality and professionalism of installations, meeting and exceeding codes, consistent lay-up, bonding, fastening, robust connections and installations, things don't fall apart;
-- livability, conveniences, ergonomics, hand holds, crew safety/safety engineering, traffic flow for living aboard, useful sea and port berths, functional galley, "human engineering";
-- maintainability, ability to access and inspect systems, ability to replace systems without having to tear the boat apart, modular designs, use of commonly available and easily repairable systems;
-- durability, ability to survive poor conditions, ability to maintain structural integrity and keep resale value;
-- sea kindliness, comfortable ride, ease of steering in all conditions, ease of short-handed or single-handed operation.

And in the modern world, boats get built to "price points".
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