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Need help and advice on choosing a sailboat.

Hello there, I'm looking to purchase my first sailboat.

I'm primarily looking for offshore sailing boats as I'd like to travel places.

My budget is around $160,000.

The crew would be around 3-4 people.

Speed should be moderate speed, not slow.

A spacious cabin is a definite plus.

I've been taking a look at some boats like the Hunter 356, Bayfield 32.

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Look into one of the 45-50 ft used boats from a chart fleet and re-fit to suit your needs. Your budget is well within that grasp and you end up with what you want in a <10 y.o. boat!!!
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Re: Need help and advice on choosing a sailboat.

Welcome to Sailnet. Unless you have significant undisclosed experience, you'd probably be better served buying a small, higher performing boat while you developed boat handling and sail trim skills. If you have a smaller boats you will probably to sail it more frequently. Further smaller boats give immediate feedback that you wouldn't get on a bigger boat. Ask yourself, "Would I rather learn to drive with a Mini-Cooper or a Greyhound bus?"

Perhaps you can find a local venue with one-design racing. If so, you'll likely find a built community committed to support you while you develop. Additionally, the market value of most one-design boats is well established, which will make it easy to sell your boat when you want to move up.

While you're developing skills you should seek opportunities to sail on other people's boats. An easy way to achieve this is crewing on races. There are good posts up on how to get invited to crew, and the expectations of beginning crew.

Also during this period you can explore chartering to taste sailing on big boats and cruising.
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Hello there, I'm looking to purchase my first sailboat.

I'm primarily looking for offshore sailing boats as I'd like to travel places.

My budget is around $160,000.

The crew would be around 3-4 people.

Speed should be moderate speed, not slow.

A spacious cabin is a definite plus.

I've been taking a look at some boats like the Hunter 356, Bayfield 32.

Thanks for replies ^^
As so often happens, when someone names a couple of designs that interest them they are often diametrically opposed in design concept. The Hunter 356 and the Bayfield 32 are such a pair.

The Bayfield probably wasn't produced after the early/mid 80s and the Hunter is a 2000 era boat, very different on many many fronts.

You have a decent budget and should be able to find a reasonably good boat for what you have in mind. But these two on your 'short list' means you have a lot more research to do. Specifying offshore duty narrows the field, though that does depend on exactly what you mean by offshore.

Any boat you find will likely need some upgrades and tweaks before heading over the horizon so keeping that in mind, you'll need some cash left over after purchase. So lets say that leaves you with $120K to shop with.. max.

A YW search with VERY broad parameters turned up nearly 5000 boats between 32 and 40 feet... enjoy:

1980 (Sail) Cruiser Boats For Sale

Here's US listings only

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...dedSelected=-1

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Re: Need help and advice on choosing a sailboat.

I'm currently a member of a club which allows me to sail many different kinds of boats, (owned by other members, and with their permission of course). I do have practise with smaller boats and larger boats, my skillset is not really a factor in what boat I choose, as that can be easily trained up.
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Re: Need help and advice on choosing a sailboat.

Thank you Faster for your advice. Yes, I do have much much more research to do about these boats, however I do understand (correct me if I'm wrong) that both these boats are fibreglass sloops. I do not really see the large difference between these two boats, so if you would kindly clear things up for me. That'll be great
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Thank you Faster for your advice. Yes, I do have much much more research to do about these boats, however I do understand (correct me if I'm wrong) that both these boats are fibreglass sloops. I do not really see the large difference between these two boats, so if you would kindly clear things up for me. That'll be great
The Westsail 32 and Melges 32 are both fiberglass sloops, too -- same length, tiller steering, bowsprits ... rather different sailboats for all that.





Rather different missions.

You have a budget -- good. What kind of sailing do you intend, and on what sailing grounds? Offshore is different than coastal. Bahamas is different than the Pacific. Motoring down the ICW is different from 4000 mile tradewinds passages, which is different from tearing around the buoys in San Diego Bay. How many people aboard, for how long, and what are their expectations of comfort, privacy, modern conveniences, and adventure? Will there be several qualified hands aboard or just you?

Where will the boat be stored? Are you comfortable working with fiberglass, wood, canvas, diesel engines, DC electrical systems?

By all means, goggle at as many different boats as possible, until a particular type (or specific model!) catches your eye. But until you can honestly answer the questions above (and more), you've basically got a boat-shaped dream without enough parameters to flesh it out & give it a name. WHO is gonna do WHAT with the boat, and WHERE?

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. I do not really see the large difference between these two boats, so if you would kindly clear things up for me. That'll be great
Bayfield 32



Hunter 356



Bayfield is a cutter, full keel, shoal draft 70s design.. cute and has character fairly roomy for her size and time, and should go for a fraction of your budget. Prices ranging $25-45K

The Hunter 356 is a design from 2000, fin/wing keel, spade rudder, backstayless B&R rig, more modern design, SHOULD be faster, will be more expensive but prices seem to range $90 - 110K

With realistically 120K to spend you can do MUCH better than either of these two.. which, it should be plain to see now are very different boats. Not as 'different' as the Melges 32 and a Westsail 32, but pretty close

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